Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:57:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Gilbert Lawrence <[email protected]>
Have you noticed that half the Americans, who complain about socialism in America, themselves receive major benefits from the US government? Mario responds: The comment above was shown to be a gross distortion in: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181502.html The post also showed an analysis that the government run Medicare health system being proposed by Gilbert for the entire USA is failing, so I'm not sure whether Gilbert is trying to sabotage the US or what. Besides, getting a benefit from the government is not socialism unless the government is involved in managing and running the system. Glibert wrote: If some of the protesting Americans were honest enough to say that they have a problem with President Obama's black heritage, that may be more forthright and understandable, though not logical. Mario responds: Here we see Gilbert playing what we call the race-card, which is reprehensible but typical of the far left wingers. He has built a straw man of racism out of whole cloth without a single example of where Obama's race has been made an issue in his socialism or in this discussion. Gilbert wrote: Certainly people have the right to question the motives of people and the government with whom they don't agree. But I am not sure they have the right to insult to our (American) collective wisdom - ani magir the Goan collective wisdom. Mario observes: Besides building yet another straw man, that someone is insulting America's collective wisdom - as represented by Gilbert I presume - what does it say about his credibility that he has been unable to provide a single example where anyone's collective wisdom has been insulted? Is a contrary opinion an "insult"? Or is it insulting to have to deal with the kind of false and misleading information we are seeing from Gilbert, with snide editorial comments to boot? Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:25:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Mervyn Lobo <[email protected]> Canada has a different approach to health care. Every year, your doctor calls you in for an annual check up. Mario responds: That may work great when you are healthy. But what happens when you really get sick? Here is one report of what you may face: http://www.nowpublic.com/world/canadian-healthcare-cracking-multiple-months-waiting-list-just-see-doctor Those who have read my documented exposes of the numerous "thaaps" by some Goanetters about Canadian health care will find Mervyn's gushing about the wonders of the Canadian health care system highly amusing. Mervyn wrote: More importantly, medical services are here are free. Mario responds: We have a saying in America, "You get what you pay for?" Here's what they get for "free" in Canada, and some Canadians don't even seem to know it. http://worldfocus.org/blog/2009/01/29/canadas-free-health-care-comes-with-long-lines/3818/
