I don't have anything to add to this discussion except that we're always thinking of our users first. We recently published something called the "Transparency Report" which shows which governments ask us to take things down:
http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine Blogger: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Jeff Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote: > Freedom of speech is always a worthwhile subject and its defense is the > ethical and moral obligation of every freedom loving individual but perhaps > this is best discussed in a dedicated blog on the subject. > > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:11 AM, nickmilon <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Philip +1 >> Still I am not sure that G would surrender so easily as Amazon did, >> there is a precedence: G vs Lieberman story: >> >> http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2008/05/dialogue-with-sen-lieberman-on.html >> when G stood to its values. >> >> By the way ... >> http://wikileaks.org/support.html doesn't work for me >> >> http://213.251.145.96/support.html is working (for the time been) >> >> >> On Dec 4, 3:15 pm, Philip <[email protected]> wrote: >> > It's sad that Amazon does not support customers that exercise the >> > right of free speech. But I'd also assume that Google would not stand >> > up against the us government for offending the first amendment. :-( >> > >> > However, I will still donate to Wikileaks and I would suggest anyone >> > else to do the same:http://wikileaks.org/support.html >> > >> > "Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be >> > limited without being lost." >> > Thomas Jefferson >> > >> > "If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be >> > led, like sheep to the slaughter." >> > George Washington >> > >> > On Dec 4, 1:34 am, supercobra <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Amazon and Google have been long-time partisans of freedom of speech. >> > >> > > However in this case, the pressure coming from the government must be >> > > incredible. Amazon is not the only victim of these intimidations. US >> > > government employees have been forbidden to visit Wikileaks sites and >> > > to discuss these matters on Facebook. At least one US university has >> > > been 'persuaded' to ask their students not to reference any Wikileaks >> > > documents in their research papers... (how is that for doing thorough >> > > research!). >> > >> > > Even crounties bend under US pressure. We have seen it to be the case >> > > with Spain & Germany which dropped their lawsuits, investigations and >> > > enforcement of arrest warrants for torture and kidnappings >> > > (renditions) after the US pressured them (source Wikileaks cables). >> > >> > > So I would assume that Google or any organization would probably >> > > comply as well. >> > >> > > To ensure free speech can not be prevented by taking down web sites, >> > > we need to create a totally distributed website hosting technology >> > > based on BitTorrent or something similar. >> > >> > > Happy coding. ;-) >> > >> > > Daniel Guermeur >> > >> > > -- [email protected] >> > >> > > Co-author of App Engine Java and GWT Development:http://bit.ly/hdTHyB >> > > Blog:http://supercobrablogger.blogspot.com/ >> > >> > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM, nickmilon <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > There is a lot of talk and flame wars going on "AWS vs GAE" topic, >> > > > up >> > > > to now all this talk was concentrated on technical and economic >> > > > issues. >> > > > News of Amazon throwing away the WikiLeaks website has raised new >> > > > arguments on the cloud battlefront. >> > > > So I want to raise here the hypothetical question what would be the >> > > > fate of WikiLeaks if it was hosted on App Engine ? >> > > > (For obvious reasons I do not expect a definite yes/no answer from >> > > > Google's team, but may be I am wrong) >> > >> > > > Happy coding:-) >> > >> > > > Nick >> > >> > > > -- >> > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > > > Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> > > > To post to this group, send email to >> > > > [email protected]. >> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > > [email protected]. >> > > > For more options, visit this group >> > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Jeff Schwartz > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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