The solution to this sort of thing is really remarkably simple... set up a reverse proxy on any of the zillions of other cloud providers. A 256MB rackspace cloud instance costs $11/mo, runs apache/mod_proxy just fine, and is 12ms to ghs.google.com.
That IP address gets banned? Set up a new instance. Keep getting banned? Automate the process. Jeff On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Will <[email protected]> wrote: > Not hypothetical at all. People using GAE in China have been fighting for > their rights almost since day 1 of GAE, first yourdomain.com is blocked, now > appspot.com has fallen... > > Will > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:36 AM, nickmilon <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It seems the question is not hypothetical any more and a new >> government request is coming soon: >> >> "The Tunisian government, known for its restriction on freedom of >> expression, rapidly blocked the access to Tunileaks. They first >> blocked http://tunileaks.appspot.com/ ( without the https). One day >> later, they blocked Google App Engine’s IP address (209.85.229.141) in >> order to block Tunileaks under https, making appspot.com partially >> unavailable in the country . >> ( >> http://elitestv.com/pub/2010/12/tunisia-censorship-continues-as-wikileaks-cables-make-the-rounds >> ) >> >> >> >> On Dec 6, 10:10 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I don't have anything to add to this discussion except that we're >> > always thinking of our users first. We recently published something >> > called the "Transparency Report" which shows which governments ask us >> > to take things down: >> > >> > http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests >> > >> > -- >> > Ikai Lan >> > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine >> > Blogger: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com >> > Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine >> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Jeff Schwartz <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > Freedom of speech is always a worthwhile subject and its defense is >> > > the >> > > ethical and moral obligation of every freedom loving individual but >> > > perhaps >> > > this is best discussed in a dedicated blog on the subject. >> > >> > > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:11 AM, nickmilon <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> Philip +1 >> > >> Still I am not sure that G would surrender so easily as Amazon did, >> > >> there is a precedence: G vs Lieberman story: >> > >> > >> > >> >>http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2008/05/dialogue-with-sen-lieb... >> > >> when G stood to its values. >> > >> > >> By the way ... >> > >>http://wikileaks.org/support.html doesn't work for me >> > >> > >>http://213.251.145.96/support.html is working (for the time been) >> > >> > >> On Dec 4, 3:15 pm, Philip <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > It's sad that Amazon does not support customers that exercise the >> > >> > right of free speech. But I'd also assume that Google would not >> > >> > stand >> > >> > up against the us government for offending the first amendment. :-( >> > >> > >> > However, I will still donate to Wikileaks and I would suggest >> > >> > anyone >> > >> > else to do the same:http://wikileaks.org/support.html >> > >> > >> > "Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot >> > >> > be >> > >> > limited without being lost." >> > >> > Thomas Jefferson >> > >> > >> > "If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may >> > >> > be >> > >> > led, like sheep to the slaughter." >> > >> > George Washington >> > >> > >> > On Dec 4, 1:34 am, supercobra <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > > Amazon and Google have been long-time partisans of freedom of >> > >> > > speech. >> > >> > >> > > However in this case, the pressure coming from the government >> > >> > > must be >> > >> > > incredible. Amazon is not the only victim of these intimidations. >> > >> > > US >> > >> > > government employees have been forbidden to visit Wikileaks sites >> > >> > > and >> > >> > > to discuss these matters on Facebook. At least one US university >> > >> > > has >> > >> > > been 'persuaded' to ask their students not to reference any >> > >> > > Wikileaks >> > >> > > documents in their research papers... (how is that for doing >> > >> > > thorough >> > >> > > research!). >> > >> > >> > > Even crounties bend under US pressure. We have seen it to be the >> > >> > > case >> > >> > > with Spain & Germany which dropped their lawsuits, investigations >> > >> > > and >> > >> > > enforcement of arrest warrants for torture and kidnappings >> > >> > > (renditions) after the US pressured them (source Wikileaks >> > >> > > cables). >> > >> > >> > > So I would assume that Google or any organization would probably >> > >> > > comply as well. >> > >> > >> > > To ensure free speech can not be prevented by taking down web >> > >> > > sites, >> > >> > > we need to create a totally distributed website hosting >> > >> > > technology >> > >> > > based on BitTorrent or something similar. >> > >> > >> > > Happy coding. ;-) >> > >> > >> > > Daniel Guermeur >> > >> > >> > > -- [email protected] >> > >> > >> > > Co-author of App Engine Java and GWT >> > >> > > Development:http://bit.ly/hdTHyB >> > >> > > Blog:http://supercobrablogger.blogspot.com/ >> > >> > >> > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM, nickmilon <[email protected]> >> > >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > > There is a lot of talk and flame wars going on "AWS vs GAE" >> > >> > > > topic, >> > >> > > > up >> > >> > > > to now all this talk was concentrated on technical and economic >> > >> > > > issues. >> > >> > > > News of Amazon throwing away the WikiLeaks website has raised >> > >> > > > new >> > >> > > > arguments on the cloud battlefront. >> > >> > > > So I want to raise here the hypothetical question what would be >> > >> > > > the >> > >> > > > fate of WikiLeaks if it was hosted on App Engine ? >> > >> > > > (For obvious reasons I do not expect a definite yes/no answer >> > >> > > > from >> > >> > > > Google's team, but may be I am wrong) >> > >> > >> > > > Happy coding:-) >> > >> > >> > > > Nick >> > >> > >> > > > -- >> > >> > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> > >> > > > Google >> > >> > > > Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> > >> > > > To post to this group, send email to >> > >> > > > [email protected]. >> > >> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > >> > > > [email protected]. >> > >> > > > For more options, visit this group >> > >> > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> > >> > >> -- >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > >> Groups >> > >> "Google App Engine" group. >> > >> To post to this group, send email to >> > >> [email protected]. >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > >> [email protected]. >> > >> For more options, visit this group at >> > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> > >> > > -- >> > > Jeff Schwartz >> > >> > > -- >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > > Groups >> > > "Google App Engine" group. >> > > To post to this group, send email to >> > > [email protected]. >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > [email protected]. >> > > For more options, visit this group at >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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