Burry, Yes that was the original question.
On Dec 8, 2:04 am, Barry Hunter <[email protected]> wrote: > Blocking is nothing new. China of course has been doing it for a long > time - but they are by no means the only country. > > Surely in this thread you asking if Google would do anything themselves? > > On 7 December 2010 22:36, nickmilon <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It seems the question is not hypothetical any more and a new > > government request is coming soon: > > > "The Tunisian government, known for its restriction on freedom of > > expression, rapidly blocked the access to Tunileaks. They first > > blockedhttp://tunileaks.appspot.com/( without the https). One day > > later, they blocked Google App Engine’s IP address (209.85.229.141) in > > order to block Tunileaks under https, making appspot.com partially > > unavailable in the country . > > (http://elitestv.com/pub/2010/12/tunisia-censorship-continues-as-wikil... > > ) > > > On Dec 6, 10:10 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> I don't have anything to add to this discussion except that we're > >> always thinking of our users first. We recently published something > >> called the "Transparency Report" which shows which governments ask us > >> to take things down: > > >>http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests > > >> -- > >> Ikai Lan > >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > >> Blogger: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > >> Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine > > >> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Jeff Schwartz <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > Freedom of speech is always a worthwhile subject and its defense is the > >> > ethical and moral obligation of every freedom loving individual but > >> > perhaps > >> > this is best discussed in a dedicated blog on the subject. > > >> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:11 AM, nickmilon <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> Philip +1 > >> >> Still I am not sure that G would surrender so easily as Amazon did, > >> >> there is a precedence: G vs Lieberman story: > > >> >>http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2008/05/dialogue-with-sen-lieb... > >> >> when G stood to its values. > > >> >> By the way ... > >> >>http://wikileaks.org/support.html doesn't work for me > > >> >>http://213.251.145.96/support.html is working (for the time been) > > >> >> On Dec 4, 3:15 pm, Philip <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > It's sad that Amazon does not support customers that exercise the > >> >> > right of free speech. But I'd also assume that Google would not stand > >> >> > up against the us government for offending the first amendment. :-( > > >> >> > However, I will still donate to Wikileaks and I would suggest anyone > >> >> > else to do the same:http://wikileaks.org/support.html > > >> >> > "Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be > >> >> > limited without being lost." > >> >> > Thomas Jefferson > > >> >> > "If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be > >> >> > led, like sheep to the slaughter." > >> >> > George Washington > > >> >> > On Dec 4, 1:34 am, supercobra <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > > Amazon and Google have been long-time partisans of freedom of > >> >> > > speech. > > >> >> > > However in this case, the pressure coming from the government must > >> >> > > be > >> >> > > incredible. Amazon is not the only victim of these intimidations. US > >> >> > > government employees have been forbidden to visit Wikileaks sites > >> >> > > and > >> >> > > to discuss these matters on Facebook. At least one US university has > >> >> > > been 'persuaded' to ask their students not to reference any > >> >> > > Wikileaks > >> >> > > documents in their research papers... (how is that for doing > >> >> > > thorough > >> >> > > research!). > > >> >> > > Even crounties bend under US pressure. We have seen it to be the > >> >> > > case > >> >> > > with Spain & Germany which dropped their lawsuits, investigations > >> >> > > and > >> >> > > enforcement of arrest warrants for torture and kidnappings > >> >> > > (renditions) after the US pressured them (source Wikileaks cables). > > >> >> > > So I would assume that Google or any organization would probably > >> >> > > comply as well. > > >> >> > > To ensure free speech can not be prevented by taking down web sites, > >> >> > > we need to create a totally distributed website hosting technology > >> >> > > based on BitTorrent or something similar. > > >> >> > > Happy coding. ;-) > > >> >> > > Daniel Guermeur > > >> >> > > -- [email protected] > > >> >> > > Co-author of App Engine Java and GWT > >> >> > > Development:http://bit.ly/hdTHyB > >> >> > > Blog:http://supercobrablogger.blogspot.com/ > > >> >> > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM, nickmilon <[email protected]> > >> >> > > wrote: > >> >> > > > There is a lot of talk and flame wars going on "AWS vs GAE" topic, > >> >> > > > up > >> >> > > > to now all this talk was concentrated on technical and economic > >> >> > > > issues. > >> >> > > > News of Amazon throwing away the WikiLeaks website has raised new > >> >> > > > arguments on the cloud battlefront. > >> >> > > > So I want to raise here the hypothetical question what would be > >> >> > > > the > >> >> > > > fate of WikiLeaks if it was hosted on App Engine ? > >> >> > > > (For obvious reasons I do not expect a definite yes/no answer from > >> >> > > > Google's team, but may be I am wrong) > > >> >> > > > Happy coding:-) > > >> >> > > > Nick > > >> >> > > > -- > >> >> > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> > > > Groups "Google App Engine" group. > >> >> > > > To post to this group, send email to > >> >> > > > [email protected]. > >> >> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> >> > > > [email protected]. > >> >> > > > For more options, visit this group > >> >> > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> Groups > >> >> "Google App Engine" group. > >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> >> [email protected]. > >> >> For more options, visit this group at > >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > >> > -- > >> > Jeff Schwartz > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> > "Google App Engine" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > [email protected]. > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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