On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 11:08 PM, 'Adam (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google
App Engine <[email protected]> wrote:

> 1. If I want to debug my projects without using "remote debugging"?
>
> You need to use remote debugging to debug App Engine applications in
> Eclipse as the debugger must connect to the Jetty instance running on
> localhost.
>
>
This is inconvenient.  Every time a developer runs their code, they have to
launch *two* processes. Is there a plan to improve that?



> a. You don't need to use Google Cloud Tools for Eclipse as both maven
> plugins support the jvmFlags option which allows you to provide the necessary
> JVM flags for debugging
> <http://www.eclipse.org/jetty/documentation/9.4.5.v20170502/enable-remote-debugging.html>
> :
>
> <configuration>
>     <jvmFlags>
>       <jvmFlag>-Xdebug</jvmFlag>
>       <jvmFlag>-Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=9999,server=y
> ,suspend=n</jvmFlag>
>     </jvmFlags>
>   </configuration>
>
> See the related discussion in an issue
> <https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/appengine-maven-plugin/issues/6#issuecomment-134697957>
> on the old plugin's project page for a solution involving Maven profiles
> (this applies equally to the new plugin as the same parameter is supported).
>
>
> b. The ability to connect the debugger isn't dependent on the version of
> dev_appserver, which is mostly a Python wrapper around Jetty, so yes you
> would still be able to debug with either plugin. Note that as Jeff
> mentioned you can also use both plugins in your project.
>
>
> 2. What is the recommended development setup for Standard Env?
>
> a. Cloud Tools for Eclipse seems to be more of a 'getting started quickly'
> solution, with some UI conveniences but fewer features, so for more serious
> projects I'd personally recommend the Maven plugin.
>
> b. This really depends on your needs. There's nothing you can do with the
> Cloud Tools plugin that you can't do with the Maven plugin, and as
> mentioned you can also use both (one is a plugin for Maven via pom.xml,
> the other is for the Eclipse project proper, and they don't mess with each
> other).
>
>
> 3. What is the recommended development setup  for Flex Env development?
>
> No special App-Enginey bits are needed to test a flexible runtime app
> locally or manage it in Eclipse. This is covered in the docs
> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/flexible/java/testing-and-deploying-your-app#running_locally>;
>  you
> can use mvn jetty:run-exploded with the Jetty plugin if you're on a Jetty
> based runtime or just mvn package; java -jar target/myjar.jar on any
> other runtime. A flexible runtime Java app is essentially just a Dockerized
> Java app that happens to run on the Flexible runtime.
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 8:03:33 AM UTC-4, Joshua Fox wrote:
> A question about Google Cloud Tools for Eclipse
> <https://cloud.google.com/eclipse/docs/>, given all these changes.
>
>
> 1. If I want to debug my projects without using "remote debugging"?
> a. Do I need  Google Cloud Tools for Eclipse?
> b. We are using the  Cloud-SDK-Based
> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/java/tools/using-maven>
>  1.30 Maven plugin  which has dev-appserver v1. If we wait until  
> Cloud-SDK-Based
> Maven  plugin goes back to dev-appserver v2, (how long might hat be), will
> we be able to debug with a Cloud-SDK-Based Maven project (opened in
> Eclipse, but without Google Cloud Tools for Eclipse)?
>
> 2. What is the recommended development setup for Standard Env?
> a. Is it Cloud Tools for Eclipse with the Cloud-SDK-Based Maven  plugin?
> b. Or just Cloud-SDK-Based Maven  plugin without Cloud Tools for Eclipse?
>
> 3. What is the recommended development setup  for Flex Env development?
> We need a single dev-environment to develop a GAE-Standard-Env service and
> a GAE-Flex-Env service on the same codebase.
> - We actually don't need "Flex support" in the sense of a local Docker or
> builtin deployment. So the fact that  Cloud Tools for Eclipse  is said to
> not support Flex might not be relevant.
> - For launching an appserver, we can use the Maven-Jetty plugin
> (org.eclipse.jetty::jetty-maven-plugin v 9.4.2)
> - But I am not sure if that is the full recommended setup. What do you
> suggest?
>
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