(+google-code-hosting, please keep the list CC'ed)

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Mordechai Ben-Ari
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Augie,
>
> Thank you for your quick reply.
>
> Please check the log of the SVN repository: the files were uploaded in 2007 
> with the notation "initial import", but _nothing_ has happened since.
I see a nontrivial number of commits here:

http://code.google.com/p/mlcs/source/list

Am I looking at the wrong project?

This looks like a project with some real code, so I'm not willing to
give you ownership of the project without you making a good faith
effort to contact the project owners. That's our policy. I'm not sure
what we'd do in this case if the owner isn't reachable, since there's
real content here.

> As I wrote in my previous message, the university that is developing the WEKA 
> project uses SourceForge. When I wrote them, they have no knowledge of the 
> "mlcs" project:

That doesn't factor in here.

>
>> This sounds like some third-party project that uses or used Weka at
>> some point. It has nothing to do with us, so go ahead and make the
>> request.
>
> I think that it is clear that this is a not a "real" or "live" project
> and that it meets all the criteria for deletion.

No, because there's actual content. It might be abandoned, but that
doesn't mean we should delete their content.

>
> Best regards,
>
> Moti
>
> --
> Prof. Mordechai (Moti) Ben-Ari
> Department of Science Teaching
> Weizmann Institute of Science
> http://www.weizmann.ac.il/sci-tea/benari/
> ________________________________________
> From: Augie Fackler [[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:48 PM
> To: Mordechai Ben-Ari
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Request to use an existing project name.
>
> The project on GPH has a non-empty Subversion repository. Have you
> emailed the project hosting-side owners of the project to attempt to
> reach them on this matter?
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Mordechai Ben-Ari
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would like to request to use the project name "mlcs".
>> I would use it to post implementations of algorithms from my book:
>> _M_athematical _L_ogic for _C_omputer _S_cience,
>> a well known textbook published by Springer:
>> http://www.springer.com/978-1-85233-319-5
>> I have just finished a new edition and
>> I would prefer that this source code be easily available and easy to share
>> through Google Code, rather than on my own website or the publisher's.
>>
>> Concerning the existing project:
>>
>> 1. How long has the project lay fallow?
>>  The project was created in 2007 and has seen no activity since its creation 
>> 5 years ago.
>> 2. Is there something "fishy" about the circumstances of the request?
>>  Yes. The description is just "test" with a link to a real project (WEKA) 
>> that actually
>>  uses SourceForge, not Google Code :-).
>> 3. Is there code in that project?
>>  There is code in the svn repository but there is nothing to download,
>>  nothing in the Wiki, no Issues, etc.
>> 4. Is the project scheduled for deletion?
>>  No.
>> 5. Is the project you wish to take over a spam trap or hosting malware or 
>> simply not open source?
>>  It is a real project but does not use Google Code (cf. question 2).
>> 6. Have you made an effort in good faith to contact the current owners? 
>> What, if anything, did they have to say in reply?
>>  An email exchange with the linked project (below) shows that they have no 
>> knowledge of this project.
>> 7. Has one of the original developers died or otherwise dropped off the grid 
>> in some fashion that you can describe to us?
>>   There is no full email address on the project site and no one of that name 
>> is listed in the website linked to.
>> 8. Have you hosted malware, spam or non-open source content on Project 
>> Hosting before?
>>   I have created a number of bona fide projects. some of which (e.g. 
>> "jspin") have seen thousands of downloads.
>>
>> Thanks for concerning my request,
>>
>> Moti
>>
>> --
>> Prof. Mordechai (Moti) Ben-Ari
>> Department of Science Teaching
>> Weizmann Institute of Science
>> http://www.weizmann.ac.il/sci-tea/benari/
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Mark Hall 
>> [[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:06 PM
>> To: Mordechai Ben-Ari
>> Subject: Re: Project name on Google Code
>>
>> Hi Moti,
>>
>> This sounds like some third-party project that uses or used Weka at
>> some point. It has nothing to do with us, so go ahead and make the
>> request.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:48 AM, Mordechai Ben-Ari
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I would like to use the name "mlcs" for a project on Google Code:
>>> programs that implement algorithms from my textbook
>>> "Mathematical Logic for Computer Science".
>>>
>>> However, the name is taken by someone named "suhei....".
>>> The project has not been active since 2007 and
>>> was apparently only used for a test.
>>> It contains a link to your WEKA project,
>>> but I see that you use SourceForge and not Google Code.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate it if you would agree to let me ask Google
>>> to use the name.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Moti
>>>
>>> --
>>> Prof. Mordechai (Moti) Ben-Ari
>>> Department of Science Teaching
>>> Weizmann Institute of Science
>>> http://www.weizmann.ac.il/sci-tea/benari/
>>
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