Ok, I'm sorry to be the one that ruins the party :P The fact is that i think the discussion is getting worse, and it's exceding a few limits. It could be a portuñol discussion, everyone taking part in it is either from Brazil or Argentina!
Of course it's funny to talk about these things (ask the Brazilian IOI'08 team about our football match ;) ), but not in this way. I think it's quite unnecessary to argue about "who is better than who", first of all because there isn't an objective truth (unless you compare Russia to Argentina :P ) and, secondly, because I think it would be better to work together in order to get a top 12 in ICPC, for example, than to fight with each other for who gets a better place. It's clear we would all choose to get 12th place, while the others get 10th, than to win our small "silly" contest, by finishing in the 40th place. Let's leave this discussion for the World Cup, and be friends in the meanwhile ;). Best regards from Argentina, Nico On Mar 12, 6:07 pm, Maurício Collares <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Leopoldo Taravilse > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > 1) In the last 4 ICPC World Finals, 3 Latin American Champions were from > > Argentina (from UBA). The problem this year was that > you trained with > > Petr and we couldn't train with nobody... > > I won't comment on the other points in order not to feed the flame > war, but the first point is different in the sense that it shows more > disrespect than playful trolling, so here's a comment on the first > point. > > First, don't you think that your statement is a bit arrogant, to say > the least, and underestimates teams such as the Universidade de São > Paulo and Universidade Federal de Pernambuco ones? The Latin American > champions for this year, UF Pernambuco, have more than 500 questions > solved on UVa Live Archive. You can't possibly be implying that they > solved this during the five days Petr lectured in São Paulo. Petr's > part of the training camp was highly instructive, but are you > seriously implying that five days of training can make you so much > better as to justify the huge difference in performance (five > questions versus three) during the actual World Finals? > > And second, stop whining. Seriously. Go organize your own training > camps. The organizers here lost literally months of free time (ask > Wanderley Guimarães if organizing the camp was a quick feat) making > things perfect, and if you don't have a training camp in Argentina, it > is much more likely that that's because people have not spent the > required time finding funding and inviting people than it is because > of not being enough guests to invite or any other reasons, which puts > the blame squarely on your hands. By the way: Every time you make such > a complaint, it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how learning > works. What's next, we can't use a book if your university doesn't > have it? > > It's fine (but pointless) if you want to make a general playful point > about the two countries, even if it's trolling. But when you make it > about *your* team in UBA against the other teams from this particular > edition of the ICPC, all it shows is a fair amount of arrogance and > lack of competitive spirit. I'm not talking about my team, since I > don't believe my team's performance was good enough for me to identify > with the point you're making, but I know the people from the other > teams and I think the points I make apply to them. > > Best regards, > Maurício -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "google-codejam" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en.
