I'm with you! El 14 de marzo de 2010 22:08, Nicolás Ponieman <[email protected]>escribió:
> Ok, I'm sorry to be the one that ruins the party :P > The fact is that i think the discussion is getting worse, and it's > exceding a few limits. > It could be a portuñol discussion, everyone taking part in it is > either from Brazil or Argentina! > > Of course it's funny to talk about these things (ask the Brazilian > IOI'08 team about our football match ;) ), but not in this way. > I think it's quite unnecessary to argue about "who is better than > who", first of all because there isn't an objective truth (unless you > compare Russia to Argentina :P ) and, secondly, because I think it > would be better to work together in order to get a top 12 in ICPC, for > example, than to fight with each other for who gets a better place. > It's clear we would all choose to get 12th place, while the others get > 10th, than to win our small "silly" contest, by finishing in the 40th > place. > Let's leave this discussion for the World Cup, and be friends in the > meanwhile ;). > Best regards from Argentina, > Nico > > On Mar 12, 6:07 pm, Maurício Collares <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Leopoldo Taravilse > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > 1) In the last 4 ICPC World Finals, 3 Latin American Champions were > from Argentina (from UBA). The problem this year was that > you trained with > Petr and we couldn't train with nobody... > > > > I won't comment on the other points in order not to feed the flame > > war, but the first point is different in the sense that it shows more > > disrespect than playful trolling, so here's a comment on the first > > point. > > > > First, don't you think that your statement is a bit arrogant, to say > > the least, and underestimates teams such as the Universidade de São > > Paulo and Universidade Federal de Pernambuco ones? The Latin American > > champions for this year, UF Pernambuco, have more than 500 questions > > solved on UVa Live Archive. You can't possibly be implying that they > > solved this during the five days Petr lectured in São Paulo. Petr's > > part of the training camp was highly instructive, but are you > > seriously implying that five days of training can make you so much > > better as to justify the huge difference in performance (five > > questions versus three) during the actual World Finals? > > > > And second, stop whining. Seriously. Go organize your own training > > camps. The organizers here lost literally months of free time (ask > > Wanderley Guimarães if organizing the camp was a quick feat) making > > things perfect, and if you don't have a training camp in Argentina, it > > is much more likely that that's because people have not spent the > > required time finding funding and inviting people than it is because > > of not being enough guests to invite or any other reasons, which puts > > the blame squarely on your hands. By the way: Every time you make such > > a complaint, it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how learning > > works. What's next, we can't use a book if your university doesn't > > have it? > > > > It's fine (but pointless) if you want to make a general playful point > > about the two countries, even if it's trolling. But when you make it > > about *your* team in UBA against the other teams from this particular > > edition of the ICPC, all it shows is a fair amount of arrogance and > > lack of competitive spirit. I'm not talking about my team, since I > > don't believe my team's performance was good enough for me to identify > > with the point you're making, but I know the people from the other > > teams and I think the points I make apply to them. > > > > Best regards, > > Maurício > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "google-codejam" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. > > -- Walter Erquínigo The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "google-codejam" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en.
