Yes! Time Limit Exceeded. It's an acronym from the UVA online judge, and/or TopCoder. I admit that I was curious to see if it would be recognized. :-)
Felix: That's a really good point. I had half of that realization during the round about D, and I'm glad that you expressed it so clearly. I guess that if you pass the Visible set, then you're always "trying" the Hidden set, which means that in some sense it's reasonable that you'll get penalty time for it. I suppose they could add an "Advanced Options" button to let you submit only on a subset of input sets, but I think it isn't worth it. The only difference from before, then, is the 4 minutes. Not too bad an extra cost to pay on a move that was always a strategic choice that needed to be made carefully. This is reminding me of 2016's Round 2 <https://code.google.com/codejam/contest/10224486/dashboard#s=p1>, where I realized with two minutes left in the contest that my solution for the Small might work for the Large, and ended up winning a t-shirt when it did. Imagine if you solved a Hidden input unexpectedly! I'm sure it will happen to someone this year. On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 2:41 PM Felix Voituret <felix.voitu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Time Limit Exceed i think ? > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > Le 8 avr. 2018 à 22:38, Leandro Coutinho <lescoutinh...@gmail.com> a > écrit : > > Thank you Bartholomew ! > > What is TLE? > *Temporal lobe epilepsy? :D* > > Em Dom, 8 de abr de 2018 17:27, Bartholomew Furrow <fur...@gmail.com> > escreveu: > >> I have a few thoughts, and I want to emphasize once again that although I >> used to be on the Code Jam team, I no longer am. >> >> First: I don't think Hidden sets are really run after the contest. At the >> end of the Qualification Round, all scores were visible immediately. We >> used to judge Large inputs as they were submitted and just not show the >> results until the end, and I'm assuming that's true with the new platform. >> >> Second: "Hidden/large should be about performance" is a reasonable >> philosophy, but it isn't a philosophy that Code Jam has held to >> historically. You can find lots of problems where there's a simple >> algorithm that would be correct on the Small, and incorrect (not just slow) >> on the Large. With that said, all data sets are designed to test the >> program as much as possible, so if your code was broken by the Invisible >> input in a way that it *could* have been broken on the Visible input, >> that's certainly something they'll be trying to avoid. >> >> Third, about whether we should know whether our submissions timed out or >> not on Hidden sets: It's certainly true that that's a difference, though as >> Felix points out it isn't like you could *do* anything about it before >> unless you acted very fast. You just knew you didn't have the points, which >> typically doesn't matter all *that* much. >> >> You might be interested to hear that when we first designed the >> small/large input set system, we viewed the ability to see TLEs as a >> down-side of the new system, when for Large inputs you weren't supposed to >> know whether you got it. It's interesting to see it come around the other >> way! >> >> I *would* like to see the running time for my Visible submissions, since >> right now I don't have a sense for how quickly anything runs on the server, >> other than that making a 15x15 square on the Interactive problem for 100 >> inputs takes more than 10 seconds. >> >> Cheers, >> Bartholomew >> >> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 2:08 PM Leandro Coutinho <lescoutinh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hmm good point. >>> >>> So CodeJam is worst now. >>> >>> Worst is not the best word. The previous system was really good. >>> >>> Em Dom, 8 de abr de 2018 17:04, Xiongqi ZHANG <zhangxion...@gmail.com> >>> escreveu: >>> >>>> The hidden test is run after the contents ends. How is it possible to >>>> tell you that your program will finish or not if it was not actually run? >>>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:56 PM Leandro Coutinho < >>>> lescoutinh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good point. >>>>> >>>>> They should let us know if the program finished on time. They can do >>>>> this without saying that it is correct or not. >>>>> >>>>> The other problem is about correctness. Hidden/large should be about >>>>> performance ... >>>>> >>>>> Em Dom, 8 de abr de 2018 16:43, Felix Voituret < >>>>> felix.voitu...@gmail.com> escreveu: >>>>> >>>>>> Well the real difference here is that you do not know if the time >>>>>> limit was respected for the hidden dataset (previously large). So you >>>>>> really has to ensure required points from visible one that you can >>>>>> control >>>>>> unless you estimate correctly time complexity regarding dataset limits. >>>>>> >>>>>> Envoyé de mon iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> > Le 8 avr. 2018 à 20:29, newbie007 <lescoutinh...@gmail.com> a >>>>>> écrit : >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Usually in the qualification round the first two problems are >>>>>> simple and with no tricks. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I got A and B correct for the small data sets, so I assumed it was >>>>>> fine. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > But then wrong for A large and time exceed for B large. 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