On Oct 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Dhanji R. Prasanna wrote:

> Haha, that's very kind.
> 
> I am not arguing against this change per se. In fact, I do want to support 
> maven for everyone who uses it. However, changing the dir layout is a bit 
> more drastic than my original suggestion, so I would have to get consensus 
> from the entire Guice team (Bob, Jesse, Fred, et al, even though Sam and 
> Stuart are on board), and our priorities may be slightly different--we want 
> to make it easy for both Google-internal and external contributors, we do not 
> have any resources other than Java files, etc., so we have to balance these 
> pressures =)
> 

And I have zero interest in making anyone use Maven if they don't want to. But 
if you don't want to take the POMs as we submitted them, then don't use them. 
Stuart and I can do a better job at supporting Maven users from our side 
because the build we have we know will work in IDEs and anything else Maven 
related because we use the build output everyday.

We'll make sure there is a build of the release in Maven Central with proper 
javadocs and sources with POMs that work. We'll also make sure users can clone 
Guice out of git and just build. We'll keep the repo up-to-date with a 
automatic sync. You don't need to do any work. It's no burden for us because 
we've been doing it for quite some time, and it's in all of our products so 
there shouldn't be any fear about us dropping off the face of the planet.

> That having been said I'm definitely interested in keeping our maven users 
> happy, so will aim for something works well for everyone involved.
> 
> Dhanji.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Andrei Pozolotin 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dhanji, hello;
> 
> just a note from a very intrested bystander:
> 
> you are a world-renown book author and genius of depenency injection;
> 
> can you please just accept Jason view on build system setup?
> 
> "there is no right or wrong but thinking makes it so", right?
> 
> delay of joy (and guice) is needless! :-)
> 
> thank you;
> 
> Andrei
> 
> 
> On Oct 12, 4:56 pm, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Oct 9, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Dhanji R. Prasanna wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Mingfai <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
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