OK, I had a chat with Jesse--let's go ahead and change the dir layout in the
maven style, given the following caveats:
- We need to make sure the ant build still works
- Maven should produce the same artifact as Ant (with jarjar'ed internals).
I don't think it serves us to have divergent binaries.
- We should not need to make any source code changes in Guice.

Dhanji.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Dhanji R. Prasanna wrote:
>
> Haha, that's very kind.
>
> I am not arguing against this change per se. In fact, I do want to support
> maven for everyone who uses it. However, changing the dir layout is a bit
> more drastic than my original suggestion, so I would have to get consensus
> from the entire Guice team (Bob, Jesse, Fred, et al, even though Sam and
> Stuart are on board), and our priorities may be slightly different--we want
> to make it easy for both Google-internal and external contributors, we do
> not have any resources other than Java files, etc., so we have to balance
> these pressures =)
>
>
> And I have zero interest in making anyone use Maven if they don't want to.
> But if you don't want to take the POMs as we submitted them, then don't use
> them. Stuart and I can do a better job at supporting Maven users from our
> side because the build we have we know will work in IDEs and anything else
> Maven related because we use the build output everyday.
>
> We'll make sure there is a build of the release in Maven Central with
> proper javadocs and sources with POMs that work. We'll also make sure users
> can clone Guice out of git and just build. We'll keep the repo up-to-date
> with a automatic sync. You don't need to do any work. It's no burden for us
> because we've been doing it for quite some time, and it's in all of our
> products so there shouldn't be any fear about us dropping off the face of
> the planet.
>
> That having been said I'm definitely interested in keeping our maven users
> happy, so will aim for something works well for everyone involved.
>
> Dhanji.
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Andrei Pozolotin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dhanji, hello;
>>
>> just a note from a very intrested bystander:
>>
>> you are a world-renown book author and genius of depenency injection;
>>
>> can you please just accept Jason view on build system setup?
>>
>> "there is no right or wrong but thinking makes it so", right?
>>
>> delay of joy (and guice) is needless! :-)
>>
>> thank you;
>>
>> Andrei
>>
>>
>> On Oct 12, 4:56 pm, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Oct 9, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Dhanji R. Prasanna wrote:
>> > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Mingfai <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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