On Oct 13, 2010, at 12:27 AM, Dhanji R. Prasanna wrote: > OK, I had a chat with Jesse--let's go ahead and change the dir layout in the > maven style
Cool. > , given the following caveats: > - We need to make sure the ant build still works Sure, happy to contribute whatever is necessary. I see that Stuart has already said as much for the short term. But we have a vested interest in Guice now so we're happy to help over the long haul. > - Maven should produce the same artifact as Ant (with jarjar'ed internals). I > don't think it serves us to have divergent binaries. As Stuart pointed out either we take the logic out of the Shade plugin (which is now just a Guice component) and make it work in Ant, or cleanup the JarJar plugin. > - We should not need to make any source code changes in Guice. > You shouldn't have to and if you did I would consider that a problem with Maven and we'll fix it quickly. > Dhanji. > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Oct 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Dhanji R. Prasanna wrote: > >> Haha, that's very kind. >> >> I am not arguing against this change per se. In fact, I do want to support >> maven for everyone who uses it. However, changing the dir layout is a bit >> more drastic than my original suggestion, so I would have to get consensus >> from the entire Guice team (Bob, Jesse, Fred, et al, even though Sam and >> Stuart are on board), and our priorities may be slightly different--we want >> to make it easy for both Google-internal and external contributors, we do >> not have any resources other than Java files, etc., so we have to balance >> these pressures =) >> > > And I have zero interest in making anyone use Maven if they don't want to. > But if you don't want to take the POMs as we submitted them, then don't use > them. Stuart and I can do a better job at supporting Maven users from our > side because the build we have we know will work in IDEs and anything else > Maven related because we use the build output everyday. > > We'll make sure there is a build of the release in Maven Central with proper > javadocs and sources with POMs that work. We'll also make sure users can > clone Guice out of git and just build. We'll keep the repo up-to-date with a > automatic sync. You don't need to do any work. It's no burden for us because > we've been doing it for quite some time, and it's in all of our products so > there shouldn't be any fear about us dropping off the face of the planet. > >> That having been said I'm definitely interested in keeping our maven users >> happy, so will aim for something works well for everyone involved. >> >> Dhanji. >> >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Andrei Pozolotin >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dhanji, hello; >> >> just a note from a very intrested bystander: >> >> you are a world-renown book author and genius of depenency injection; >> >> can you please just accept Jason view on build system setup? >> >> "there is no right or wrong but thinking makes it so", right? >> >> delay of joy (and guice) is needless! :-) >> >> thank you; >> >> Andrei >> >> >> On Oct 12, 4:56 pm, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On Oct 9, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Dhanji R. Prasanna wrote: >> > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Mingfai <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "google-guice" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-guice?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "google-guice" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-guice?hl=en. > > Thanks, > > Jason > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Jason van Zyl > Founder, Apache Maven > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > --------------------------------------------------------- > > In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational > and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it. > > -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "google-guice" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-guice?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "google-guice" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-guice?hl=en. 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