Hi Pamela,

Its a shame there is still the restriction of direct tile access for
mobile map apps. For reasons previously discussed here
http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/msg/43b94767cbe09065?hl=en
 the JS API is not practical for writing an iphone maps based
applications

The updated FAQ here http://code.google.com/apis/maps/faq.html#mapsformobile
suggests that we use the static maps for mobile maps, but these can't
be tiled together to make a moving touch based map (like the native
iphone apple google map) due to the logo being enforced on every tile.
(displaying the logo is no problem but 8 logos on the one screen just
doesn’t work)

Please, Please there are 10 million iphones and therefore a growing
market and a lot of early adopter type smart phone app development is
happening on this device so its unfortunate our only current option is
openstreetmaps (not to disrespect this great effort – its just not at
the same quality level as googles maps)

Thanks again for listening to our cries :)

Regards,
Matt

On Nov 17, 6:25 am, GaryDPS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pamela, 11.3 is a problem. It says that we confirm we have the rights
> to grant the above licenses to Google, but in reality very few
> individuals and organisations do have the rights that Google asks for.
>
> For example, if you're creating a mashup you will be using data from
> other sources - roadworks, properties for sale, crime locations,
> whatever. While the developer creating the mashup may have the
> licenses and the rights to present this data to the public on their
> website they do NOT have the right to extend any rights or licenses of
> that data to Google.
>
> If the developer does not own the IPR (intellectual property rights)
> of the data they're putting through the maps API then they are almost
> certainly breaking the ToS because they do not have the rights to
> extend any rights on to a 3rd party (i.e. Google). Sorry if I've
> repeated myself but this is a major flaw in the ToS which breaks the
> license for almost everyone.
>
> IMHO the whole ToS needs expanding upon with examples. As someone else
> said, we're developers not lawyers. And a lot of it is open to
> interpretation. I don't want my lawyer to tell me what he thinks
> Google's lawyers meant by 11.1 or 11.3 when Google should really make
> an effort to spell it out more clearly since it's in everyone's
> interest to know where we stand and for Google to be as transparent as
> possible.
>
> One issue I'm foxed by, regarding 11.1, if I'm using the API to plot
> markers on maps on my website, how can Google claim any license to
> reproduce, adapt, etc, if the data that creates the markers aren't
> being sent to Google? The data goes straight from my server via the
> Internet to my visitor's browser whereby Javascript (run locally)
> turns the data into a marker. Or are the ToS implying that even this
> data is sent to Google via the API? Google must declare this if it's
> true.
>
> What if a website plots private data that's unique to the current user
> (on a free public website which they're logged into)? Are Google
> saying they can technically capture and store this data and if so are
> they requesting a license to publicly display this data elsewhere? Why
> would they want to do that and is the message I'm hearing right in
> that if we use the API to plot our own home address then Google have
> the rights to display that to anyone anywhere?
>
> Thanks for listening and I look forward to some answers.
> Gary.
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