I have No idea why my posts post 4 times..... I really submitted just
once.  Sorry.

On Mar 31, 11:24 am, Drew Johnston <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ah.... So teleAtlas provides the map service to google?  Hm....  is it
> a crazy idea to try and go through Teleatlas to provide my map service
> or is that crazy talk? (crazy talk= millions of dollars)
>
> On Mar 31, 10:56 am, Andrew Leach <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 31, 6:43 pm, Drew Johnston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Andrew:  5000 of "a" map image or 5000 of map images.  You know what I
> > > mean?  Can I print 5000 maps of Los Angeles and 5000 maps of New
> > > York?  Or 5000 maps period?
>
> > It's 10.10 athttp://code.google.com/apis/maps/terms.html--it's a
> > bit ambiguous, so you decide. I would say it's 5000 copies of whatever
> > contains the map image. So 5000 sheets containing a map; or 5000 guide
> > books containing several maps.
>
> > > Regardless, the rest of your suggestion
> > > is actually exactly what i was thinking.  The user is really using
> > > Google Maps to obtain the map image.  I'm not making money off of
> > > this.  I am making money off of the service I am providing which will
> > > allow the user to edit these maps into a "production" map."   
> > > (seewww.productionmaps.com)
>
> > Yes: you allow the user to produce a web page with his layout. If he
> > can link to it, fine; but actually you probably can't stop him
> > printing it himself at that point. You will need a similar protection
> > clause to Google's Clause 15, so TeleAtlas don't come after you if
> > your users overdo the print run.
>
> > > Derivative Images?  How would you define a derivative images? Because
> > > you say not to create derivative images and to keep it all online.  If
> > > I take it offline (print), is that the moment in which a derivative
> > > image is created?
>
> > Your original question was about producing PDFs or JPEGs or something
> > similar. Those are derivative works. Just produce a webpage which
> > includes an API map (or more than one).
>
> > > Chargeability: I also can live without charging my users a fee if I
> > > can make the necessary income through advertising.
>
> > I think it would be ok to charge for the service you're providing of
> > allowing the user to produce a layout. If they are allowed to create a
> > link which you need to interpret in order to reproduce their layout,
> > that's *definitely* chargeable.

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