On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino
<[email protected]>wrote:

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> On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:33 AM, 'Goktug Gokdogan' via GWT Contributors <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>> Pretty cool. Thanks for all the work. Also special kudos for fixing the
>> styling for download page, it is much more elegant now!
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>> Footer:
>>  - We are now missing the extra space in the bottom of the pages (the one
>> before the footer)
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> done
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>  - The area for the footer is larger and the text is closer to the bottom
>> - I think the original spacing was better. Also if you take a look at the
>> overview page you will see the footer hides part of the image.
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> fixed css
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>> Others:
>>  - Clicking images shows blank page - perhaps just a deployment issue
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> Don't see this issue, what images do you mean?
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Click devmode screenshot in http://gwtproject.gquery.org/gettingstarted.html


>   - There is a broken "Advanced Topics" menu item - I think it is mixed
>> up with the Logging menu item.
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> Fixed, the logging item was indented wrong
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>>   - I would put "Optimize" to Advanced topics. Perhaps security and i18n
>> as well.
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> Done, I think i18n could be out. But anyway is difficult to put the edge
> about what are or not advanced topics
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>>  - Perhaps move Community -> Developer Spotlight under Resources?
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> done
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>  - In Resources, we can move gwt surveys to the end of the list
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> done
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>> Below are other issues that doesn't look like regressions. Perhaps we can
>> have some other quick wins before publishing the final version?
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>> Menu:
>>  - Ideally the arrows shouldn't indent the menu items and instead menu
>> items should be aligned by text (e.g. gmail). I'm not sure if you are
>> reusing any widgets here; if you aren't reusing we might want to change
>> that.
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> done. We dont use any widget, just html+css. gquery enhances the list
> adding handlers using selectors.
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>>  - We might want to change how menus behave. I actually like GWT
>> Developer pages (e.g. https://developers.google.com/appengine/pricing)
>> where menu items that are parents of the other menu items are not used as
>> links to a content, instead they serve as a placeholder and
>> collapses/expands based when clicked. Also it won't auto collapse existing
>> items. I think all together that is more useable.
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> I have changed parents with not content (href = #)  to expand/collapse
> menu (See 'Advance topics' in docs).
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> Having parent-items with content makes the menu shorter and easy to use,
> like 'side bars' in google code wikis
> https://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/WikiSyntax#Side_navigation
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> I'd rather auto-collapse on, but I have set it off as you prefer.
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Even if you look at the menu in that wiki page, you will see that parent
menu items are not acting as links to their own content instead they are
just placeholders for grouping and  will collapse/expand on click. I think
that is the most intuitive and what we should do in the long run, however
that might require some work to move the content to child pages.

Nevertheless I think the last version is problematic:
 - Having menu item sometimes collapse sometimes not collapse when clicked
is not user friendly as they will behave inconsistently.
 - As it is difficult and not easy to discover how to collapse a menu with
content after it is expanded, it can become annoying for users to not have
auto-collapse enabled on navigation.

So I think we should either keep the old behavior (i.e. auto-collapse) or
move the new behavior (no content association for ALL parent menus, expand
and collapse on click,  NO auto-collapse).
Again the second option is ideal from my point of view but we may want to
do it later for reducing the amount work.



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>> General:
>>  - We have smaller size font for links (probably regular text font is
>> larger than it suppose to be).
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> Fixed
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>>  - Looks like you made the body wider which I think is good but making
>> the whole page right aligned (i.e. all extra space goes to left) is not a
>> good idea. It looks really bad in widescreen (which many developers has).
>> We should probably follow a different approach for distributing the space
>> (e.g. add the extra space to left until a max value is reached).
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> I dont know if I understand correctly. The width is adjusted based on
> media sizes, and I have set 3 sizes: wide desktop, small desktop & tablets
> and mobile. Also I have changed the font size (16 -> 14px) so as there is
> more text in the same place, and text alignment (left -> justify).
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> I have adjusted content padding for big desktop, I see correctly the
> pages, let me know if that works for you.
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LGTM. It looks like it distributes the spacing evenly for left and right
sight. I would use less padding before the leftnav but this is mostly ok.

I'm not sure if this is a new problem or not but now when you switch
through menu items, left nav sometimes jumps around. It looks this is
related to scrollbar being shown on the right or not. Perhaps you can use
the scrollbar only for the content bar to prevent that from happening.


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>>   - All code samples lost formatting and even some lost line wrapping
>> after site migration.
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> Code styling has not changed for code blocks, I see these pages (current
> site, demo site) in the same way, maybe there is some other page wrong or
> some style interfering
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> http://www.gwtproject.org/doc/latest/DevGuideCodingBasicsClient.html
> http://gwtproject.gquery.org/v2/doc/latest/DevGuideCodingBasicsClient.html
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> Can you check if you see them in the same way? or send me a link or
> screenshot of the page which works wrong?
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I know this is not a regression - as I noted earlier, all of my comments on
the second part are already existing problems. The code examples was broken
when we moved to gwtproject.org.
 - We don't have syntax highlighting for example code (you can see that in
the pages that you have linked)
 - Content is not formatted at all in some sample codes (see
http://gwtproject.gquery.org/doc/latest/tutorial/JUnit.html#write) - I
guess I only saw a few of them.

We can defer all these stuff, just pointed in case if they are easy to fix.


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> - Manolo
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