SGTM

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Julien Dramaix <[email protected]>wrote:

>  >>> Others:
> >>>  - Clicking images shows blank page - perhaps just a deployment issue
> >>
> >>
> >> Don't see this issue, what images do you mean?
> >>
> >
> > Click devmode screenshot in
> http://gwtproject.gquery.org/gettingstarted.html
>
> This issue already exists in the production website. I created a bug to
> track it and I propose to fix it later in another patch :
> https://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=8707
>
> > So I think we should either keep the old behavior (i.e. auto-collapse)
> or move the new behavior (no content association for ALL parent menus,
> expand and collapse on click,  NO auto-collapse).
> > Again the second option is ideal from my point of view but we may want
> to do it later for reducing the amount work.
>
> I'm more in favor of the second option also.
>
>
> > I know this is not a regression - as I noted earlier, all of my comments
> on the second part are already existing problems. The code examples was
> broken when we moved to gwtproject.org.
> > - We don't have syntax highlighting for example code (you can see that
> in the pages that you have linked)
> > - Content is not formatted at all in some sample codes (see
> http://gwtproject.gquery.org/doc/latest/tutorial/JUnit.html#write) - I
> guess I only saw a few of them.
>
> > We can defer all these stuff, just pointed in case if they are easy to
> fix.
>
> Indeed we should defer these stuff. During the gwt-meetup, I would like to
> propose and discuss of a possible revamp of the website. During this
> revamp, we could fixe all these problems.
>
> I propose that Manolo (thanks again for the good job) fixes the behavior
> of the menu according to the Goktug second option and then merge his
> patches in order that we can deploy this version in production. This
> version improves a lot the existing web site and I would like to add a
> search box (using google custom search) asap.
>
> Julien
>
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:54 PM, 'Goktug Gokdogan' via GWT Contributors <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:33 AM, 'Goktug Gokdogan' via GWT Contributors
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pretty cool. Thanks for all the work. Also special kudos for fixing the
>>>> styling for download page, it is much more elegant now!
>>>>
>>>> Footer:
>>>>  - We are now missing the extra space in the bottom of the pages (the
>>>> one before the footer)
>>>>
>>>
>>> done
>>>
>>>  - The area for the footer is larger and the text is closer to the
>>>> bottom - I think the original spacing was better. Also if you take a look
>>>> at the overview page you will see the footer hides part of the image.
>>>>
>>>
>>> fixed css
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Others:
>>>>  - Clicking images shows blank page - perhaps just a deployment issue
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't see this issue, what images do you mean?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Click devmode screenshot in
>> http://gwtproject.gquery.org/gettingstarted.html
>>
>>
>>>   - There is a broken "Advanced Topics" menu item - I think it is mixed
>>>> up with the Logging menu item.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fixed, the logging item was indented wrong
>>>
>>>
>>>>   - I would put "Optimize" to Advanced topics. Perhaps security and
>>>> i18n as well.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Done, I think i18n could be out. But anyway is difficult to put the edge
>>> about what are or not advanced topics
>>>
>>>
>>>>  - Perhaps move Community -> Developer Spotlight under Resources?
>>>>
>>>
>>> done
>>>
>>>  - In Resources, we can move gwt surveys to the end of the list
>>>>
>>>
>>> done
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Below are other issues that doesn't look like regressions. Perhaps we
>>>> can have some other quick wins before publishing the final version?
>>>>
>>>> Menu:
>>>>  - Ideally the arrows shouldn't indent the menu items and instead menu
>>>> items should be aligned by text (e.g. gmail). I'm not sure if you are
>>>> reusing any widgets here; if you aren't reusing we might want to change
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> done. We dont use any widget, just html+css. gquery enhances the list
>>> adding handlers using selectors.
>>>
>>>
>>>>  - We might want to change how menus behave. I actually like GWT
>>>> Developer pages (e.g. https://developers.google.com/appengine/pricing)
>>>> where menu items that are parents of the other menu items are not used as
>>>> links to a content, instead they serve as a placeholder and
>>>> collapses/expands based when clicked. Also it won't auto collapse existing
>>>> items. I think all together that is more useable.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have changed parents with not content (href = #)  to expand/collapse
>>> menu (See 'Advance topics' in docs).
>>>
>>> Having parent-items with content makes the menu shorter and easy to use,
>>> like 'side bars' in google code wikis
>>> https://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/WikiSyntax#Side_navigation
>>>
>>> I'd rather auto-collapse on, but I have set it off as you prefer.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Even if you look at the menu in that wiki page, you will see that parent
>> menu items are not acting as links to their own content instead they are
>> just placeholders for grouping and  will collapse/expand on click. I think
>> that is the most intuitive and what we should do in the long run, however
>> that might require some work to move the content to child pages.
>>
>> Nevertheless I think the last version is problematic:
>>  - Having menu item sometimes collapse sometimes not collapse when
>> clicked is not user friendly as they will behave inconsistently.
>>  - As it is difficult and not easy to discover how to collapse a menu
>> with content after it is expanded, it can become annoying for users to not
>> have auto-collapse enabled on navigation.
>>
>> So I think we should either keep the old behavior (i.e. auto-collapse) or
>> move the new behavior (no content association for ALL parent menus, expand
>> and collapse on click,  NO auto-collapse).
>> Again the second option is ideal from my point of view but we may want to
>> do it later for reducing the amount work.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> General:
>>>>  - We have smaller size font for links (probably regular text font is
>>>> larger than it suppose to be).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fixed
>>>
>>>
>>>>  - Looks like you made the body wider which I think is good but making
>>>> the whole page right aligned (i.e. all extra space goes to left) is not a
>>>> good idea. It looks really bad in widescreen (which many developers has).
>>>> We should probably follow a different approach for distributing the space
>>>> (e.g. add the extra space to left until a max value is reached).
>>>>
>>>
>>> I dont know if I understand correctly. The width is adjusted based on
>>> media sizes, and I have set 3 sizes: wide desktop, small desktop & tablets
>>> and mobile. Also I have changed the font size (16 -> 14px) so as there is
>>> more text in the same place, and text alignment (left -> justify).
>>>
>>> I have adjusted content padding for big desktop, I see correctly the
>>> pages, let me know if that works for you.
>>>
>>
>> LGTM. It looks like it distributes the spacing evenly for left and right
>> sight. I would use less padding before the leftnav but this is mostly ok.
>>
>> I'm not sure if this is a new problem or not but now when you switch
>> through menu items, left nav sometimes jumps around. It looks this is
>> related to scrollbar being shown on the right or not. Perhaps you can use
>> the scrollbar only for the content bar to prevent that from happening.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>   - All code samples lost formatting and even some lost line wrapping
>>>> after site migration.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Code styling has not changed for code blocks, I see these pages (current
>>> site, demo site) in the same way, maybe there is some other page wrong or
>>> some style interfering
>>>
>>> http://www.gwtproject.org/doc/latest/DevGuideCodingBasicsClient.html
>>>
>>> http://gwtproject.gquery.org/v2/doc/latest/DevGuideCodingBasicsClient.html
>>>
>>> Can you check if you see them in the same way? or send me a link or
>>> screenshot of the page which works wrong?
>>>
>>>
>> I know this is not a regression - as I noted earlier, all of my comments
>> on the second part are already existing problems. The code examples was
>> broken when we moved to gwtproject.org.
>>  - We don't have syntax highlighting for example code (you can see that
>> in the pages that you have linked)
>>  - Content is not formatted at all in some sample codes (see
>> http://gwtproject.gquery.org/doc/latest/tutorial/JUnit.html#write) - I
>> guess I only saw a few of them.
>>
>> We can defer all these stuff, just pointed in case if they are easy to
>> fix.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You can test new changes at http://gwtproject.gquery.org
>>>
>>>
>>> - Manolo
>>>
>>>
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