Thanks for the good job Manolo ! The mobile version of the site is really
better now.

I've deployed the new version in production : http://www.gwtproject.org/

Julien


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino
<[email protected]>wrote:

> All your suggestions are done and committed to gerrit.
>
> Demo instance has been updated with those changes:
> http://gwtproject.gquery.org
>
> - Manolo
>
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:23 PM, 'Goktug Gokdogan' via GWT Contributors <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> SGTM
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Julien Dramaix <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>  >>> Others:
>>> >>>  - Clicking images shows blank page - perhaps just a deployment issue
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Don't see this issue, what images do you mean?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Click devmode screenshot in
>>> http://gwtproject.gquery.org/gettingstarted.html
>>>
>>> This issue already exists in the production website. I created a bug to
>>> track it and I propose to fix it later in another patch :
>>> https://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=8707
>>>
>>> > So I think we should either keep the old behavior (i.e. auto-collapse)
>>> or move the new behavior (no content association for ALL parent menus,
>>> expand and collapse on click,  NO auto-collapse).
>>> > Again the second option is ideal from my point of view but we may want
>>> to do it later for reducing the amount work.
>>>
>>> I'm more in favor of the second option also.
>>>
>>>
>>> > I know this is not a regression - as I noted earlier, all of my
>>> comments on the second part are already existing problems. The code
>>> examples was broken when we moved to gwtproject.org.
>>> > - We don't have syntax highlighting for example code (you can see that
>>> in the pages that you have linked)
>>> > - Content is not formatted at all in some sample codes (see
>>> http://gwtproject.gquery.org/doc/latest/tutorial/JUnit.html#write) - I
>>> guess I only saw a few of them.
>>>
>>> > We can defer all these stuff, just pointed in case if they are easy to
>>> fix.
>>>
>>> Indeed we should defer these stuff. During the gwt-meetup, I would like
>>> to propose and discuss of a possible revamp of the website. During this
>>> revamp, we could fixe all these problems.
>>>
>>> I propose that Manolo (thanks again for the good job) fixes the behavior
>>> of the menu according to the Goktug second option and then merge his
>>> patches in order that we can deploy this version in production. This
>>> version improves a lot the existing web site and I would like to add a
>>> search box (using google custom search) asap.
>>>
>>> Julien
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:54 PM, 'Goktug Gokdogan' via GWT Contributors
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Manuel Carrasco Moñino <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:33 AM, 'Goktug Gokdogan' via GWT
>>>>> Contributors <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty cool. Thanks for all the work. Also special kudos for fixing
>>>>>> the styling for download page, it is much more elegant now!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Footer:
>>>>>>  - We are now missing the extra space in the bottom of the pages (the
>>>>>> one before the footer)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> done
>>>>>
>>>>>  - The area for the footer is larger and the text is closer to the
>>>>>> bottom - I think the original spacing was better. Also if you take a look
>>>>>> at the overview page you will see the footer hides part of the image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> fixed css
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Others:
>>>>>>  - Clicking images shows blank page - perhaps just a deployment issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't see this issue, what images do you mean?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Click devmode screenshot in
>>>> http://gwtproject.gquery.org/gettingstarted.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>   - There is a broken "Advanced Topics" menu item - I think it is
>>>>>> mixed up with the Logging menu item.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fixed, the logging item was indented wrong
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   - I would put "Optimize" to Advanced topics. Perhaps security and
>>>>>> i18n as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Done, I think i18n could be out. But anyway is difficult to put the
>>>>> edge about what are or not advanced topics
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  - Perhaps move Community -> Developer Spotlight under Resources?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> done
>>>>>
>>>>>  - In Resources, we can move gwt surveys to the end of the list
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> done
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below are other issues that doesn't look like regressions. Perhaps we
>>>>>> can have some other quick wins before publishing the final version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Menu:
>>>>>>  - Ideally the arrows shouldn't indent the menu items and instead
>>>>>> menu items should be aligned by text (e.g. gmail). I'm not sure if you 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> reusing any widgets here; if you aren't reusing we might want to change
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> done. We dont use any widget, just html+css. gquery enhances the list
>>>>> adding handlers using selectors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  - We might want to change how menus behave. I actually like GWT
>>>>>> Developer pages (e.g. https://developers.google.com/appengine/pricing)
>>>>>> where menu items that are parents of the other menu items are not used as
>>>>>> links to a content, instead they serve as a placeholder and
>>>>>> collapses/expands based when clicked. Also it won't auto collapse 
>>>>>> existing
>>>>>> items. I think all together that is more useable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have changed parents with not content (href = #)  to expand/collapse
>>>>> menu (See 'Advance topics' in docs).
>>>>>
>>>>> Having parent-items with content makes the menu shorter and easy to
>>>>> use, like 'side bars' in google code wikis
>>>>> https://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/WikiSyntax#Side_navigation
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather auto-collapse on, but I have set it off as you prefer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even if you look at the menu in that wiki page, you will see that
>>>> parent menu items are not acting as links to their own content instead they
>>>> are just placeholders for grouping and  will collapse/expand on click. I
>>>> think that is the most intuitive and what we should do in the long run,
>>>> however that might require some work to move the content to child pages.
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless I think the last version is problematic:
>>>>  - Having menu item sometimes collapse sometimes not collapse when
>>>> clicked is not user friendly as they will behave inconsistently.
>>>>  - As it is difficult and not easy to discover how to collapse a menu
>>>> with content after it is expanded, it can become annoying for users to not
>>>> have auto-collapse enabled on navigation.
>>>>
>>>> So I think we should either keep the old behavior (i.e. auto-collapse)
>>>> or move the new behavior (no content association for ALL parent menus,
>>>> expand and collapse on click,  NO auto-collapse).
>>>> Again the second option is ideal from my point of view but we may want
>>>> to do it later for reducing the amount work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> General:
>>>>>>  - We have smaller size font for links (probably regular text font is
>>>>>> larger than it suppose to be).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fixed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  - Looks like you made the body wider which I think is good but
>>>>>> making the whole page right aligned (i.e. all extra space goes to left) 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> not a good idea. It looks really bad in widescreen (which many developers
>>>>>> has). We should probably follow a different approach for distributing the
>>>>>> space (e.g. add the extra space to left until a max value is reached).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I dont know if I understand correctly. The width is adjusted based on
>>>>> media sizes, and I have set 3 sizes: wide desktop, small desktop & tablets
>>>>> and mobile. Also I have changed the font size (16 -> 14px) so as there is
>>>>> more text in the same place, and text alignment (left -> justify).
>>>>>
>>>>> I have adjusted content padding for big desktop, I see correctly the
>>>>> pages, let me know if that works for you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LGTM. It looks like it distributes the spacing evenly for left and
>>>> right sight. I would use less padding before the leftnav but this is mostly
>>>> ok.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if this is a new problem or not but now when you switch
>>>> through menu items, left nav sometimes jumps around. It looks this is
>>>> related to scrollbar being shown on the right or not. Perhaps you can use
>>>> the scrollbar only for the content bar to prevent that from happening.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   - All code samples lost formatting and even some lost line
>>>>>> wrapping after site migration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Code styling has not changed for code blocks, I see these pages
>>>>> (current site, demo site) in the same way, maybe there is some other page
>>>>> wrong or some style interfering
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.gwtproject.org/doc/latest/DevGuideCodingBasicsClient.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gwtproject.gquery.org/v2/doc/latest/DevGuideCodingBasicsClient.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you check if you see them in the same way? or send me a link or
>>>>> screenshot of the page which works wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I know this is not a regression - as I noted earlier, all of my
>>>> comments on the second part are already existing problems. The code
>>>> examples was broken when we moved to gwtproject.org.
>>>>  - We don't have syntax highlighting for example code (you can see that
>>>> in the pages that you have linked)
>>>>  - Content is not formatted at all in some sample codes (see
>>>> http://gwtproject.gquery.org/doc/latest/tutorial/JUnit.html#write) - I
>>>> guess I only saw a few of them.
>>>>
>>>> We can defer all these stuff, just pointed in case if they are easy to
>>>> fix.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can test new changes at http://gwtproject.gquery.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Manolo
>>>>>
>>>>>
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