On Sunday, June 14, 2015 at 12:31:15 PM UTC+1, stuckagain wrote: > > I'm excited that you guys are planning a radical change (really). I hope > it becomes more clear on what we should be using to future proof our apps. > I hope we will get some usable preview of Singular (if that is really > going to be a replacement). > > Somehow I am not totally concerned that we will need some major rewrites, > it will be hard sell to management and it might mean that we need to look > to different directions as well. > > But I am afraid that if GWT is no longer offering a complete solution like > it does now (including a UI library, RPC support, i18n, UI binding, ... > etc) that a lot of the advantage will be lost for me. > Other libraries now offer excellent alternatives, that are probably now superior (imho) for RPC, i18n, UI Binding - such as Errai.
The programmatic user UI api can be forked and maintained under a different name, for those that continue to need the programmatic UI api. It hasn't been developed much in years now anyway, so freeing it may allow it to progress better. > > As for naming, well it seems that non of the three letters still apply to > the direction GWT is about to take. > 1) no longer in Google hands (or so they clame) > 2) Web not the main concern since the cross compiler is more to share code > between web/android/ios apps. > 3) Toolkit ... it sounds more like a transpiler to me. Everything that > made it a tooltip will be scrapped. > > > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Matic Petek <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm also frustrated about which technologies to use on new GWT projects >> (see >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/google-web-toolkit/_QSayBAmeX8 >> ). >> But when it comes about the name, GWT should stay. The basic idea around >> GWT is writing code in Java which is then recompile (or whatever you call >> it / do it) into JavaScript. And this idea will stick with new GWT 3.0 (it >> was also very clearly emphasis is one of the talks), so the name should >> stay. >> Regards, >> Matic >> >> >> On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 11:03:08 AM UTC+2, Paul Robinson wrote: >>> >>> The GWT Meetup 2015 videos are very interesting. >>> >>> >>> I can see why the proposals for GWT 3.0 have been made. However, we >>> should be clear about the fact that GWT 3.0 is not just going to break a >>> few little things that can easily be fixed, but break things to the point >>> that it's a completely different product and there will be lots of GWT >>> applications that will never be ported to the new system. >>> >>> >>> It will be confusing to all GWT users to continue to use the name GWT >>> 3.0. It would be much better to use a new name for the new system and treat >>> it as what it is: a new idea about how Java can be used to build modern web >>> applications. >>> >>> >>> The situation we have now is that GWT will end at 2.8 and a new thing, >>> that is currently vapourware, will be coming that people are expected to >>> use. There's going to be a lot of confusion and those using GWT now, as >>> well as those that will use the new thing when it does exist, will all be >>> served much better if everybody stops calling the new thing "GWT". >>> >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "GWT Contributors" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/43ceb941-d8cc-496f-bab3-ab8219c120bf%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/43ceb941-d8cc-496f-bab3-ab8219c120bf%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GWT Contributors" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-web-toolkit-contributors/13a882e0-e40b-490c-a109-36563341c058%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
