+1 drop all i.e. On Thu, Sep 30, 2021, 4:13 PM Juan Pablo Gardella < [email protected]> wrote:
> +1 drop IE 11 increases the effort to include new stuff. IE +11 can still > use GWT 2.9.0 > > On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 16:55, Vegegoku <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I vote to even drop support for IE11. >> >> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 7:49:56 PM UTC+3 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> I've just filed https://github.com/gwtproject/gwt/issues/9739, where a >>> workaround exists in java.util.Date that nearly doubles the time it takes >>> to parse date strings and build date objects. This workaround exists for >>> IE8 and IE9, as all more recent browsers implement the same behavior as we >>> already would expect. Dropping support for those two browsers would >>> simplify the code required here >>> >>> From the age of this thread and the discussion so far, it sounds like >>> there is interest in keeping IE11 still, but no one has spoke up about IE10 >>> or below. >>> >>> Additionally, java.util.Random emulation was changed to require >>> Date.now(), which isn't available in IE8, so neither GWT 2.8.2 nor GWT >>> 2.9.0 are apparently compatible with IE8 anyway, at least in this small >>> way. This should give us some confidence (along with the lack of opposition >>> in this thread) that at least IE8 is definitely safe to drop. >>> >>> So, is there any objection at this time to dropping what remains of IE8, >>> IE9, and IE10 support from GWT? Then, we can reevaluate IE11 at some later >>> date, for GWT itself? Various migrated GWT modules have focused their >>> efforts on well-supported browsers, and are likely to only support IE11 by >>> accident anyway. >>> >>> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 1:20:02 AM UTC-6 stuckagain wrote: >>> >>>> We still need IE11 support in the banking sector. We still have a >>>> majority of customers that use IE11 due to technical reasons (plugins >>>> needed for accessing secure token donโt install properly in Chrome without >>>> internet access amongst others). >>>> >>>> What do you mean with โnext version of GWTโ if that is 3.x then I donโt >>>> care at this point. We have been waiting for that release for a few years >>>> now. But 2.x releases should not drop IE11 support it is supposed to be a >>>> long-term supported version. >>>> On 12 Mar 2021, 07:54 +0100, [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]>, wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all! >>>> >>>> I think IE11 support should be dropped soon if it blocks (or makes it >>>> difficult) to implement new features in the next version of GWT. >>>> I understand, that there are enterprises who still use IE11 internally, >>>> but developers who service such enterprises should use the current version >>>> of GWT, which is not going away. Nobody is forced to upgrade to the next >>>> version of GWT. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Berni >>>> >>>> [email protected] schrieb am Donnerstag, 11. Mรคrz 2021 um 22:26:21 >>>> UTC+1: >>>> >>>>> IE 11 is still widely used inside corporations, because it is the only >>>>> browser that supports Java applets, and applications such as Oracle >>>>> e-Business Suite still use applets extensively (for Oracle forms). While >>>>> that segment does not move very fast, it does not mean other unrelated >>>>> groups within the same corporation are not updating GWT regularly. It is >>>>> hard to generalize In a multinational company with tens of thousands of >>>>> employees. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Tony >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 9:49 AM Jens <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dropping IE 8-10 shouldn't really hurt. Companies that require it are >>>>>> probably not upgrading GWT in a fast pace anyways. >>>>>> >>>>>> However I wouldn't drop IE 11 anytime soon. IE 11 itself is tied to >>>>>> the lifecycle of Microsoft's operating systems, which means for Windows >>>>>> 10 >>>>>> it is supported until 2025 (for now). So just because MS and Google drop >>>>>> support for IE 11 in some/all of their products, the browser itself is >>>>>> still generally supported by MS. So we should think twice before removing >>>>>> IE 11 from a library such as GWT, even if it means to decline/revert >>>>>> certain commits if they break IE 11. From own experience I have usually >>>>>> seen something around 8% of IE 11 usage in GWT based apps. >>>>>> >>>>>> However I am pretty sure more and more companies will announce >>>>>> dropping IE 11 this year or next year. With MS and Google starting, this >>>>>> could easily have a domino effect. However GWT also also strongly used >>>>>> internally inside companies so it might not have that much of an effect >>>>>> in >>>>>> that area. >>>>>> >>>>>> If we ditch IE 8-10 and only leaving gecko1_8 and safari, can't we >>>>>> kill them both as well and put them together? Are there so many >>>>>> differences >>>>>> in code between both? From my work migrating GWT code to >>>>>> elemental2/JsInterop I had the feeling that only some minor stuff is >>>>>> different between both. 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