Oops. Reply all is even harder to remember from a phone! On Dec 26, 2012 11:43 AM, "Majken Connor" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Dec 26, 2012 5:47 AM, "David Bruant" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Le 26/12/2012 10:45, Gervase Markham a écrit : > > > >> On 25/12/12 21:47, Majken Connor wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi all. I have some concerns about the posts on the official facebook > and > >>> twitter accounts. > >> > >> > >> For those not on Facebook and/or Twitter, and for clarity, would you > mind quoting the posts you are concerned about? > > > > I also don't see the posts > > > > Thanks to Sheeri for posting them. I think you can see the twitter page > without being logged in. > > > > >>> What is/should the policy be in terms of how we use cultural > celebrations > >>> to promote firefox, especially in light of the community guidelines? > >> > >> > >> I would be surprised and disappointed if the community guidelines were > actively used to try and make Mozilla a culture or religion-free zone. As > well as being impossible, the attempt would IMO be damaging and lead to > sterility in our personal interactions. > > > > I'm balanced on this point. > > Before going any further, I wish to say that I'm aware that what I'm > about to say may be controversial. By saying it, I don't mean to hurt > anyone. I'm describing and analyzing based on my personal experience, which > I know is biaised, uneven, incomplete and inaccurate. Feel free to correct > what I write if you feel I'm mistaken. > > > > I come from France. I've spent a year in California during my studies. > From my experience (I could be wrong because I haven't experienced 100% of > the US), the sterility in personal interactions is a "default" attitude in > the US. > > This got me thinking a lot. If I was asked an explanation (and I could > be completely wrong here too), it would be that the US were formed through > lots of immigration waves, bringing people from different cultures, > different contexts I would even say. In order for some many different > people to cohabit, it seems natural that they had to agree on common > grounds to say "hello", things to eat at events, etc. At every event I went > to in the US, there was at least vegetarian food for instance. > > > > At MozFest 2011, IIRC, meals were vegan and gluten-free. That a common > denominator so that people from most known religions and with most known > allergies eat safely according to their eating restrictions. Now, the > MozFest organization could have set up 2 or 3 different menus, some with > meat, some with pork, but that would have probably been much more annoying > to organize. > > > > A common denominator is the best chance to be offense-free. I agree with > you that there is some loss (what you call "sterility") in the choice of a > common denominator, but at the same time, what's the alternative? How do > you prevent people from being offended in a public communication while > keeping some cultural aspects that may offend people from different > cultures? > > > > > > I don't think policy or community guideline can be a solution here. > Handing off the keys to the public communication accounts to a > multi-cultural group of mozillians who will have to agree through consensus > (without necessarily voting) may be. > > One thing I was thinking, if we decided to leave specific references off > the main account, we could leave it to the regional communities. The main > account could retweet or refer to the original community post, eg "happy > thanksgiving to our friends in @moztoronto!" > > Though the question still remains if community accounts should also avoid > non-mozilla topics or if they have should have freedom because they > represent more specific groups. > > > > > All the best, > > > > David > > > > _______________________________________________ > > governance mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
