Hi Gerv, I think that is all besides the point. In North America we call the holiday Christmas (which is a catholic word) and we associate Santa with Christmas (and in fact he is derived from a Saint if we want to keep being historical, and possibly is pagan before that), not with a different holiday that occurs at the same time. While everyone celebrates it differently (or not at all) Santa is still *entwined* with the religious celebration.
My point also wasn't to call out the fact that the reference was specifically Christian. My point was that up until a point the holiday posts were broad and therefore more inclusive, then there were specific posts about only one celebration. On top of that it makes indirect references to religion though I do respect that it was being avoided as much as possible. The real issue I want to raise is that we have community guidelines about being inclusive that focus around leaving our personal differences at the door, eg religion, politics, culture, and coming together in forwarding Mozilla's values. This poses an interesting question, especially for engagement, in terms of how much we should follow that distinction as we act on behalf of Mozilla. Should Mozilla assets focus on Mozilla specific news and events, or should we use "off topic" cultural/political events to help raise our visibility? How do we do that right? The popcorn political ad maker during the US election is an interesting example. It acknowledged a world event without taking a side in the event and directly promoted a Mozilla technology. In fact you made the ad about yourself, not about any real candidates. This feels more on the right track. On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Gervase Markham <[email protected]> wrote: > On 26/12/12 10:57, Daniel Glazman wrote: > > It *is* a religious reference. In my family, Santa and Xmas represent > > absolutely nothing because our background is not christian. > > That's a non sequitur. Santa can mean nothing to you even if you are a > Christian. Or it can mean something to you if you're not a Christian - > plenty of non-Christian families "believe in" Santa. > > What has Santa (as in, the red-suited Ho-Ho-Ho version of 2012) got to > do with the birth of Jesus Christ? Nothing. > > > You could also remind us that the 25th of december is just a pagan > > reference, the day of Sol Invictus, and most certainly before that the > > day of Mithra. > > Yes, that too :-) > > > Come on, Gervase, this is not a discussion about Human > > History but about present times. In present times, Christmas and Santa > > are christian references (unless someone is praying Mithra here ?-). > > Christmas is, or can be; Santa is not. > > Gerv > > _______________________________________________ > governance mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
