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On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Li Gong <[email protected]> wrote: > Irvin, > > * This means, people in China cannot choose to download non-custom zh-CN > Firefox on our China site. > > > You are incorrect again. People *can* choose to download any version they > want. There is "other languages and editions" button right below the > download button, where you could find all the 70+ versions of Firefox that > are built routinely. Moreover, if a user chooses the locally built version, > they can also configure which add ons they would have installed or not have > installed. So, there are choices. > Good to know that user do have way to choice, that's my mistake that I didn't notice this. Verified that if user know the Firefox on firefox.com.cn is a custom build (we didn't indicate that they're using a different version in any place, right?) and they want to get a global version, they can click the "other system and language" link below the big green button, and click "select the language pack you want" link in next screen, then they can find the non-custom version of zh-CN Firefox in all language list. On my opinion, the approach on mozilla.com.tw (indicate "Taiwan Version" on big green button, and implement a "you can also download global version" link) is better then current way. Also, I still notice that the choice is not provided on mozilla.com.cn , maybe we can fixed that also. > > Thanks, > > Li > -- > Li Gong (宫力), PhD > Senior VP of Mobile Devices & > President of Asia Operations & > CEO of Mozilla China/Taiwan > Mozilla Corporation > > On Dec 4, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Irvin Chen <[email protected]> wrote: > > I try to be even more clearly, (sorry for my english ;) > > 1. > * Local MoCo made their custom build ( other than normal locale build) for > business reason, and only provide download to this custom build on local > website. > * This means, people in China cannot choose to download non-custom zh-CN > Firefox on our China site. > > We have to choice between > * "We do provide choice for user, to select between local custom version > and global version" or > * "We only provide local MoCo custom build on local MoCo site" > on this issue. > > 2. > * We redirect the fastdial shortcut to a online store, which user added, > through a affiliate company, and we earned money form that. > * Although user will not notice they'd been redirected. > * (For ex., It's same behavior as that some website will redirect user's > link to Amazon through SiteTag's affiliates link.) > > The policy choice of this issue is that > * "We don't redirect user's saved link in anyway, in order to earn money" > or > * "We do redirect user's saved link through some 3rd party website's > service to make money". > > Irvin > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Irvin Chen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Rubén, >> >> I'll add some more info to clearly your understanding, with underline __. >> >> - Mozilla Online offers a custom China Firefox version. __and only >> provide this version to user on our China website.__ >> - This version includes a default __extension__ to provide quick dial >> __function. (it's a different front page to normal Firefox.)__ >> - __If user added a link on quick dial to a online market (www.jd.com) >> and click that short-cut, it will be automatically redirected through a >> affiliate website.__ >> - The code __which do the redirect__ included a joke message "do some >> evil here". >> - Tech press was alarmed because of this and some recent problems in >> China about adware moving traffic to pages with affiliates codes. >> >> >> Irvin >> >> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Rubén Martín < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I had to read all the messages twice to understand the problem. If I >>> understand correctly: >>> >>> - Mozilla Online offers a custom China Firefox version. >>> - This version includes a default bookmark on quick dial thumbnails. >>> - This link points to a site with an affiliate code. >>> - The code included a joke message "do some evil here". >>> - Tech press was alarmed because of this and some recent problems in >>> China about adware moving traffic to pages with affiliates codes. >>> >>> Irvin, so your concern is about having a custom build for a locale, the >>> affiliate bookmark, know the rationale of having it or the joke message >>> that was already removed? >>> >>> Regards. >>> -- >>> Rubén Martín (Nukeador) >>> Mozilla Reps Mentor >>> http://mozilla-hispano.org >>> http://twitter.com/mozilla_hispano >>> http://facebook.com/mozillahispano >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> @ irvinfly: community liaison >> moztw.org Mozilla Taiwan community >> > > > > -- > @ irvinfly: community liaison > moztw.org Mozilla Taiwan community > > > -- @ irvinfly: community liaison moztw.org Mozilla Taiwan community _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
