Dennis, It would absolutely NOT be appropriate for Mozilla to censure *anyone*. Mozilla believes in keeping the web open so that everyone can speak their mind, regardless of whether any individual agrees with what is being said.
-Sheeri Cabral Manager, Systems DB Team Senior DB Admin/Architect Mozilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Culley" <[email protected]> To: "Boris Zbarsky" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 1:49:08 PM Subject: RE: Brendan Eich Boris, Do you think Mitchell would post the following statement on her blog? "Mr. Brendan Eich is an important and highly valued member of the Mozilla family. We are sorry he has left his position as CEO because of a small, but vocal minority of persons who, ironically, wish to use intolerance to suppress the personal views of others. Mozilla actively encourages and supports tolerance and inclusiveness in all that we do. As a corporation, we neither agree nor disagree with our employees personal views. If Mr. Eich chooses, we would be happy to welcome him back to his former position." On another note. Wouldn't it be appropriate for Mozilla to at least censure those employees who used the Mozilla name to voice those intolerant positions? Chris McAvoy <[email protected]> (MoFo; Open Badges): https://twitter.com/chmcavoy/status/449230809493278721 Chloe Varelidi <[email protected]> (MoFo; Open Badges, Webmaker): https://twitter.com/varelidi/status/449232390461087744 John Bevan <[email protected]> (MoFo; Partnerships) https://twitter.com/bevangelist/status/449232803902025728 Jess Klein <[email protected]> (MoFo; Mozilla Badges Creative Lead) https://twitter.com/iamjessklein/status/449233331352514560 Sydney Moyer <[email protected]> (MoFo intern; Engagement team): https://twitter.com/sydneymoyer/status/449233927237279744 Kat Braybrooke <[email protected]> (MoFo; Curation and Co-Design Lead) https://twitter.com/codekat/status/449243912717094912 Dennis > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 12:56:27 -0400 > From: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Brendan Eich > To: [email protected] > > On 4/7/14 12:22 PM, Dennis Culley wrote: > > The tone of this post is unambiguous in the sense that someone did > > something wrong. Since Brendan was the only one to have been affected > > Dennis, > > I'm not sure why you conclude that Brendan was the only one affected. > > A large number of people were affected, including Brendan, Mitchell, the > board members, most of Mozilla's employees (myself included), and a > number of non-employee Mozilla project contributors. > > > it is logical to assume that Ms. Mitchell places the blame squarely on Mr. > > Eich's shoulders > > I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing a basis in fact for this assumption. > > What _I_ get out of the text you quoted is precisely what it says. > Mitchell is apologizing for our failure as an organization to clearly > explain that there is a difference between "CEO has some view" and "CEO > will impose this view on the entire organization and its interactions > with the world" and thus potentially head off the controversy. For some > organizations this difference does not exist, but it _does_ exist for > Mozilla. Explaining that early on might have helped. Maybe. > > > Here is the problem. It is clear that Ms. Mitchell is “surprised” that > > someone could have views that do not support same sex marriage yet > > still be inclusive and not discriminatory. > > Mitchell (or Ms. Baker if you prefer to be more formal) was surprised to > find out that a particular person she had worked very very closely with > for over 15 years had views she had never even suspected he had. She > was not surprised that he was inclusive and not discriminatory: she knew > the man quite well and had observed that part firsthand. > > She was also not surprised that he _could_ hold such views and still be > inclusive and nondiscriminatory. I'm sorry if it read to you like she > was; it seems pretty clear to me that the surprise was at the existence > of the views at all, not at the fact that Brendan could reconcile them > with inclusive and non-discriminatory behavior. > > -Boris _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
