Correct; Mozilla is delightfully different in this. It's exactly why Chris McAvoy specifically said https://twitter.com/chmcavoy/status/449231987895570433 "It's important to note that I'm fortunate to work at a place like @mozilla where I can say that without fear of retribution."
Also, I see you've pointed out that all the employees you listed are employees of the Mozilla Foundation. The Mozilla Foundation is above Mozilla Corporation. Brendan was the CEO of Mozilla Corporation and wasn't the boss of any of the people you linked to. -Sheeri Cabral Manager, Systems DB Team Senior DB Admin/Architect Mozilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Culley" <[email protected]> To: "Sheeri Cabral" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 2:40:02 PM Subject: RE: Brendan Eich Most organization do not approve of employees using the company name to espouse their own personal views. > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 11:08:54 -0700 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Brendan Eich > > Dennis, > > It would absolutely NOT be appropriate for Mozilla to censure *anyone*. > Mozilla believes in keeping the web open so that everyone can speak their > mind, regardless of whether any individual agrees with what is being said. > > -Sheeri Cabral > Manager, Systems DB Team > Senior DB Admin/Architect > Mozilla > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Culley" <[email protected]> > To: "Boris Zbarsky" <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 1:49:08 PM > Subject: RE: Brendan Eich > > > > > Boris, Do you think Mitchell would post the following statement on her blog? > > "Mr. Brendan Eich is an important and highly valued member of the Mozilla > family. We are sorry he has left his position as CEO because of a small, but > vocal minority of persons who, ironically, wish to use intolerance to > suppress the personal views of others. Mozilla actively encourages and > supports tolerance and inclusiveness in all that we do. As a corporation, we > neither agree nor disagree with our employees personal views. If Mr. Eich > chooses, we would be happy to welcome him back to his former position." > > On another note. Wouldn't it be appropriate for Mozilla to at least censure > those employees who used the Mozilla name to voice those intolerant > positions? > Chris McAvoy <[email protected]> > (MoFo; Open Badges): > https://twitter.com/chmcavoy/status/449230809493278721 > > Chloe Varelidi <[email protected]> > (MoFo; Open Badges, Webmaker): > https://twitter.com/varelidi/status/449232390461087744 > > John Bevan <[email protected]> > (MoFo; Partnerships) > https://twitter.com/bevangelist/status/449232803902025728 > > Jess Klein <[email protected]> > (MoFo; Mozilla Badges Creative Lead) > https://twitter.com/iamjessklein/status/449233331352514560 > > Sydney Moyer <[email protected]> > (MoFo intern; Engagement team): > https://twitter.com/sydneymoyer/status/449233927237279744 > > Kat Braybrooke <[email protected]> > (MoFo; Curation and Co-Design Lead) > https://twitter.com/codekat/status/449243912717094912 > > Dennis > > > > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 12:56:27 -0400 > > From: [email protected] > > CC: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Brendan Eich > > To: [email protected] > > > > On 4/7/14 12:22 PM, Dennis Culley wrote: > > > The tone of this post is unambiguous in the sense that someone did > > > something wrong. Since Brendan was the only one to have been affected > > > > Dennis, > > > > I'm not sure why you conclude that Brendan was the only one affected. > > > > A large number of people were affected, including Brendan, Mitchell, the > > board members, most of Mozilla's employees (myself included), and a > > number of non-employee Mozilla project contributors. > > > > > it is logical to assume that Ms. Mitchell places the blame squarely on > > > Mr. Eich's shoulders > > > > I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing a basis in fact for this assumption. > > > > What _I_ get out of the text you quoted is precisely what it says. > > Mitchell is apologizing for our failure as an organization to clearly > > explain that there is a difference between "CEO has some view" and "CEO > > will impose this view on the entire organization and its interactions > > with the world" and thus potentially head off the controversy. For some > > organizations this difference does not exist, but it _does_ exist for > > Mozilla. Explaining that early on might have helped. Maybe. > > > > > Here is the problem. It is clear that Ms. Mitchell is “surprised” that > > > someone could have views that do not support same sex marriage yet > > > still be inclusive and not discriminatory. > > > > Mitchell (or Ms. Baker if you prefer to be more formal) was surprised to > > find out that a particular person she had worked very very closely with > > for over 15 years had views she had never even suspected he had. She > > was not surprised that he was inclusive and not discriminatory: she knew > > the man quite well and had observed that part firsthand. > > > > She was also not surprised that he _could_ hold such views and still be > > inclusive and nondiscriminatory. I'm sorry if it read to you like she > > was; it seems pretty clear to me that the surprise was at the existence > > of the views at all, not at the fact that Brendan could reconcile them > > with inclusive and non-discriminatory behavior. > > > > -Boris > > > _______________________________________________ > governance mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
