On 8/26/14, 12:59 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote:
On 2014-08-26, 3:01 PM, Mike Hoye wrote:
On 2014-08-26 2:34 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote:
On 2014-08-26, 1:31 PM, Mike Hoye wrote:
I share your concerns, but I don't think we can avoid being subject to
the discovery laws, however egregious, of any country we have an
office in.
Is that related to the location of our offices or the location at
which the data is hosted? Presumably we can control the latter at
least to some extent.
Either one is sufficient under US law. As long as Mozilla is located in
the US and retains "possession, custody or control” of the data, we
could rack a server on the moon for all the protection it would offer us
from a national security letter.
Well, that is terrible. :(
Do we really really really need to have this data? If so, can you
please clarify why, Geoff?
I would like to remind people that in the past (sync v1 for example) we
went to great length to make sure that we don't have access to the data
in case the government asks for it. Do we no longer care about that
threat to the data that we store?
Thanks!
Ehsan
IMO, I doubt that it's "we no longer care about that threat" as much as
Mozilla's leadership deciding that not playing the game at all, giving
up on building products and educating users that might positively
influence the rules of the game, and ceding the space to entities with
less scruples than Mozilla, is a worse outcome than playing the game
knowing that it's kind of ugly and impure. At least if you're in the
game, you have the opportunity at influence.
- A
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