On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 01:27:43PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > On 26/08/14 20:59, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > > Do we really really really need to have this data? If so, can you > > please clarify why, Geoff? > > > > I would like to remind people that in the past (sync v1 for example) we > > went to great length to make sure that we don't have access to the data > > in case the government asks for it. Do we no longer care about that > > threat to the data that we store? > > Hang on, can we de-escalate for a moment? > > We are talking here about "data relating to the tiles such as number of > clicks, impressions, your IP address, URLs, locale information and tile > specific data (e.g., position and size of grid)." > > Can you construct a scenario where information of that type would be the > subject of government interest or an NSL? I'm not sure they are > particularly interested in the fact that I've seen an tile for the New > York Times 133 times. You IP address is revealed to Mozilla whenever > your browser pings Mozilla for any reason; they key question is what > other PII is associated with it. Here, your locale is included, but > nothing else that seems like PII.
That *really* depends on the URL. For example it seems pretty reasonable to not want mozilla to know I've clicked on a tile going to http://www.amazon.com/Titan-17612-12-Piece-Precision-Screwdriver/dp/B0002SRFM6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409147886&sr=8-1&keywords=lock+picks since possession of that in some juristictions is illegal. Making that worse I can think of things we might want to put on tiles only because we want it to be used more, that you'd very reasonably not want to have records of you using. That could maybe be helped by distinguishing tiles we report data on and others, but I don't see a good UI for that. Trev > I would also like the privacy policy to expand much more on how this > data is collected and why, but I think that we are overstating things by > worrying about governments here. Now, if we had a service that stored > your entire browsing history, that would be different... > > Gerv > > _______________________________________________ > governance mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
