Hello everyone this is Dicky Moe, again. We are sad to join again and write up. 
We just want to make some points clear before you dig yourself in.

We went anonymous not because we are afraid. There is no reason for us to be! 

  # Mozilla its paying for our daily bread, but it does provide us community 
spirit which is vital for Mozillians because once mozillian you are mozillian 
forever, we don’t want a bunch of dictators ruin what we’ve all stood up for.

  # If you still want us to reveal our names that would be the last thing the 
community want to get. (Black spread faster and  easily, but hard to wash )

  # Most people have got themselves in trouble raising the community issues and 
finally end up leaving the community. We are not ready for that! At Least not 
before completing the projects we took up. 

We have seen volunteers & Staffs leaving Mozilla and joining organizations that 
totally opposes the Mozilla mission, Internal issues are the main cause 
whatever they post on blogs or statements is just for personal satisfaction 
because Mozilla has been diffused in the blood. Let's hope it doesn't happen to 
most of us. Please spend less time scrutinizing the literature and immature use 
of caps or grammar and choice of file sharing program :) Instead, please read 
and reflect on the issues being raised.

We don't feel overwhelmed by all the responses against our mail. It's easier to 
speak in support. And since our previous mail sounded a little immature with 
all the caps, special effects and background score. People are probably 
thinking that they are all just lies and uncalled for.

But keep in mind that for every person who expressed an opinion against our 
action, there are many who shared our view and let us know their support 
through PM, but are just afraid to speak out publicly. One of the most abused 
sentences in the Mozilla community is “this is an open community”. Well, we 
hate to break it to you: it is not!

Lets began......  ( TO LONG PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME TO READ )

[1]MozFest
-----------------
Did the council lose all their fingers or keys on the keyboard, we/community 
had not received any reply for the concerns raised...? “The Selection process”.

We are shocked to see the council not keeping its own words, waiting for the 
2-3 Sentence explanation for the persons selected. Can we expect the answer 
before Mozfest 2015.?

We never thought we needed to look here, but, we were forced to, after the so 
called ‘qualified reps’ according to the Reps Council who attended the Mozfest 
weren’t doing what they were intended to do after all, the following links 
proves it 
http://priyankaivy.blogspot.in/2014/10/my-last-two-cents-to-mozilla-india.html.

If so happened then why were those reps invited….? 
(Thanks Priyanka for sharing, hope you won’t remove it. In case if the above 
link is not available by the time you read it, here is a screenshot of it 
https://www.sendspace.com/file/sdslcw )

Congrats you just made the majority of hardworking Mozillians made look fool 
because those selected were enjoying London it seems. Do you still have 
anything to say about this? 

[2]Reps Council
----------------------

As always Reps program has managed to stay as the headquarters of problems or 
the tensions. We are very sad to see the heading of the Reps program.

The work of WilliamQ & Pierros to help community reach Mozilla faster was 
superb, but we have to say, my friends, you have failed to manage it or take it 
forward. We have no objections to your actions and idea of Reps but you are 
still responsible for transferring unaccountable control to people who weren’t 
up for the task - manage and guide the community.

Community management is a very tough task, In an organization like Mozilla It’s 
the only task that has to be dealt seriously after the Main Products. We are 
sad for having to mention names and go personal here.

We don't know what you guys do during the in-person meetings every time in 
luxurious locations. There has never been any visible improvements in Reps 
program in recent times. All we had is cursing from all directions and 
volunteers leaving the program. The commitment of Reps program can be measured 
just by looking at the number of people voting to select the council member. 
People have just lost faith with more and more dictatorial dominating the Reps 
program. The Reps program has given unlimited powers in many decision making 
processes which make many mozillians hard to work with all those diplomacy.  

Brian King, Ruben (we have a special section for you), Vineel, Gautham Raj, 
Robert Bob Ryes, Mahay Alay Khan(MAK)  you guys are the worst community persons 
anyone could have met. You have managed to ruin the community by breaking the 
openness.  If you try to get yourself away stating that you’re gonna improve 
from your current standing, it has no meaning here. If/when replying, please 
keep bombast and rhetoric to their minimum - in simple words, avoid BS; give 
facts.

Brian King - The guy before Ruben, who have sat managing Mozilla Reps and 
started the process of running the community. This guy simply haven't done any 
sort of help when asked. Instead, he has sided with many community members who 
claim themselves as “liaisons” or community leads(we wonder what these guys 
have done other than having trips and getting the credits of work done by 
others) especially in the Asian region and back stabbed many other hardworking 
mozillians.

Ruben - Scroll down bud, we haven’t reached yours yet.

Robert Bob - You have been one hell of a pain for a lot of mozillians in the 
community.  First of all, you have to understand Mozilla is not solely yours 
and mind your language when talking to community members. You have given very 
little respect and have taken direct word attacks in many mails which has 
caused some uneasiness for many people.

Vineel - We have heard from many community members how you  played silently in 
the back and take credit for stuffs that you haven't even heard of. You soap or 
sugar coats the Mozilla staffs a lot that no one dares say anything even the 
community members. You have your group who gets to represents mozilla for 
everything that involves luxury and make community members look like fools. 
Don’t play nice because the truth can’t be hidden for long. We guess there are 
more members who have left the community because of your unflavored policies. 
You have been sticking and proclaiming as the head of the regional community 
for long (Does any one know who made him the lead, by the way). We have seen 
some great minds leaving from your community, which you also seem to have left 
and yet your name still shows up on every event Mozilla budgets, is it only us 
who see this…?

And in general, we must have elections, choosing the head of the community and 
one can’t simply sit forever and dictate with his buddies. This happens in many 
communities, Vineel's dictator managed the first position in the list making a 
perfect example for this email. MAK standing second, we’re observing you too on 
this one. You have caused political divisions in Bangladesh community. The 
domain issue and more... Ruben and more we are watching all 

Gauthamraj - This guy is a Webmaker contractor now? We just don't know how 
these people are qualified to do such works for Mozilla. These are not posted 
anywhere. Was there any open call for this or anything on the Careers page? 
Isn’t that how “Open” works?  Concerned authorities please explain


[3]Mentor selection
----------------------------

As far we see each Rep has a mentor, but what we have no idea is who they are 
and how they came to be one..? No official invitation or nomination news in any 
of the lists.

It seems like the one who is connected with a council get a position in 
council- Political bribery?

[4]Community IT
-----------------------

Who the hell do you think you are Ruben..?.

We know you have been with mozilla and community since 6+ years, all the 
mozillians including you, have been breathing same mission so far, but please 
bear in mind that Mozilla is not your Family Asset…? You might have the 
veteran’s syndrome 
(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Veteran%27s+Syndrome), you 
should check that out.

Congratulation for joining Reps Council, but don’t think you can establish a 
dictatorship over a community that supports openness. As council we value your 
action only in areas or the fields assigned to you, but that doesn't mean you 
have the ultimate decision on any things other than the ones stated to you. 

Your reactions to these areas have-not been fruitful to community with 
communication, your replies in bug 1121901 
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1121901) especially the reply in 
comment#11 has been very arrogant - the kind that people who manage communities 
shouldn’t display. Not to mention the reaction at 
https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/community-hosting-require-domain-ownership-transfering-to-mozilla/1448/2

Learn to respect other mozillians! Or better yet, other humans in general. Your 
works so far to Mozilla has been great, but you are doing more damage than good 
now and you are trying your best to achieve a bad name to your profile and you 
are being successful in that.

[5]Reps application endorsement
-----------------------------------------------

Mr. Ruben, according to your comment, an applicant need to get endorsed on his 
Reps application form, from those who vouched the applicant’s mozillians 
profile. When did this new approach make?
Who made this decision? Did Mentors approve this? Did you inform to the broader 
reps community about this stupid change? 
What if the applicant gets vouches from a non-rep mozillian? How he can endorse 
his vouchee’s application then? What if the voucher is no more available. The 
unlucky applicant can’t be a rep?
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1129695#c1


What we demand/request:
  # End the dictatorial working of Reps council and mentors. A clear selection 
process for mentor selection and contesting in council has to be implemented.

  # An open way to kick a council /mentor/rep if he/she is unfit. Open votes 
have to be taken against the council and mentors to reason if they are working 
the way they should be. And this vote has to be public and not in some hidden 
locker at the councils side desk.

 # Mozilla is not just a Reps program and those who proclaim themselves as the 
head has to understand that other mozillians also help in shaping the Open Web. 
Try to respect everyone.

 # Transparency in selection process. We have sent a doc in the last email of 
how immature and biased the selection were for a regional level event. Shame on 
you people. 

 # While having done the criticism, we also would like to thank Benjamin 
Kerensa, Emma Irwin and Majken Connor for all the efforts they take in making 
things more transparent. We just need people like you at the important 
positions so that some inexperienced and closed minded people don't end there, 
for example Ruben. We expect bold people like you to come forward. 

 # Allow participation of all the volunteers in the decision making process, 
irrespective of position - at least in the major decision making process and in 
all cases.

We are not here to make the organization look bad. We trust this organization’s 
mission to the core and we are dreaming for a safe and open web. But we can't 
achieve any, if the status continues. Lets constructively discuss the above 
problems and not our literature or who we are.

Many people have reached us (PM) claiming problems so if anyone feels anything 
need to be addressed in open feel free to mail us.


Regards
Fellow Mozillians 
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