Thank you for appreciating my efforts. Hopefully since that is the case, you will take my reply to heart.
I am not sure what specific incidents have happened that have made you call out these particular people here, but in several of your accusations you are misinformed. Pierros is still owner of the program, Brian had Rosana's role for a short time, but not enough time to "ruin" the program. Also, both Brian and Ruben worked with myself, Vineel, Viking, Guillermo, Rami, Pierros and William Q in creating the program. In terms of setting policy it was always discussed between us 9. While William and Pierros certainly deserve extra credit for driving the program and doing behind the scenes work, if you like the program you have to give just as much credit to Vineel, Ruben and Brian. I can also say that transparency has been an issue from the beginning, this isn't new. William and Pierros deserve as much blame for that as the rest of us. Obviously a lack of transparency is partly to blame for your misconceptions on where the problems lie and who caused them. However, I just put a lot of work into running a council AMA that didn't get much participation. This was a great chance to find out more about Council, in fact I asked this question myself to help people better understand how the program is run - https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/what-are-the-different-roles-of-council-pierros-rosana-and-nukeador/1599 I also tried to start a discussion to better understand what is currently considered private as well as to advice council and leadership on what we think should be changed. The participation on that pad, discussion, and Discourse topic can be counted on one hand. While I agree with some of the concerns you raise, I have no respect for your group. You have obviously avoided the chances given to help provide constructive feedback and even participate in solving the problems. When I make these threads and call for feedback and get none, it makes me look controlling, and high strung and like I'm focusing on details that no one else cares about. I start to sound like the squeaky wheel and then people start to ignore me. So to be left hanging like that it makes me respect you even less and gives me no faith that you actually want to see a solution. If you want to change my mind, start participating. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:15 PM, matthew zeier <[email protected]> wrote: > > > We have seen volunteers & Staffs leaving Mozilla and joining > organizations that totally opposes the Mozilla mission, > > I have a pretty strong reaction to that statement. > > As a former paid-staff myself, I'll put it this way: > > You can take me from the mission but you can not take the mission from me. > > Wherever I go - and wherever other Mozilla Alumni go - we take those core > Mission values with us. It's just impossible to live those values for any > length of time - 7 years in my case - and not. I'll point to someone like > Christian Heilmann going to Microsoft as an extreme measure of success. > > And I think that's excellent. And I think the real challenge for Mozilla > is to learn how to leverage those Alumni as we march throughout the world. > > The rest of your note was hard to digest as it was too ad hominem and thus > an ineffective argument. > > _______________________________________________ > mozillians mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozillians > _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
