Hi Benjamin,

Thank you for the clarification, perhaps I was mislead by the 'outdated'
wiki, and on how this 'community' works or doesn't. If I have done all I
can here then so be it.

Regards
Douglas Crosher

On 02/24/2017 09:49 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
> That module wiki is outdated Brendan is not involved in the project. I'm
> not shutting down this discussion I'm just letting you know you have
> exhausted your options.
> 
> I've been around long enough to see many emails like yours and see them
> go nowhere.
> 
> If you haven't got a positive response from the module owner or Chris I
> don't think anyone is going to intervene on your behalf.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 23, 2017 2:42 PM, "Douglas Crosher" <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Benjamin,
> 
>     With all due respect I believe Brendan was still listed as having the
>     final say on technical disputes, and there are likely other paths too. I
>     see nothing to indicate that you have the authority to close down this
>     discussion. If no one in Mozilla wishes to engage then that is their
>     choice, I just won't bother here any more.
> 
>     Regards
>     Douglas Crosher
> 
>     On 02/24/2017 09:33 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
>     > That's not how things work and no Brendan hasnt been involved in the
>     > project for years.
>     >
>     > Mozilla's Board of Directors don't get involved in bugs and I can tell
>     > you that your not going to get any escalation by emailing here.
>     >
>     > Module owner has the final say and you've indicated you already went
>     > that route so you exhausted all your options.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Feb 23, 2017 2:30 PM, "Douglas Crosher" <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi Benjamin,
>     >
>     >     Last time I looked I believe Brendan still had the final say,
>     so I find
>     >     that hard to believe. I would like to hear that from the Mozilla
>     >     Directors?
>     >
>     >     I would like to see some accommodation for the performance use
>     cases,
>     >     and it does not seem a big thing to ask and something that
>     would benefit
>     >     the web. This might require some new split in responsibilities
>     so that
>     >     everyone can get along, and some more objective agreed metrics for
>     >     'merit'.
>     >
>     >     Regards
>     >     Douglas Crosher
>     >
>     >     On 02/24/2017 08:41 AM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
>     >     > There is no escalation if the module owner and decision
>     makers in the
>     >     > bug have made a decision.
>     >     >
>     >     > It appears you've exhausted your options.
>     >     >
>     >     > On Feb 23, 2017 1:23 PM, "Douglas Crosher via governance"
>     >     > <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     <mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     <mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     <mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     Hi,
>     >     >
>     >     >     I would like to bring the following review decision to the
>     >     attention of
>     >     >     the community and to ask how such matters can be escalated:
>     >     >     https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1342060
>     <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1342060>
>     >     <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1342060
>     <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1342060>>
>     >     >     <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1342060
>     <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1342060>
>     >     <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1342060
>     <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1342060>>>
>     >     >
>     >     >     It is not just the decision that I dispute, I am not happy
>     >     with the
>     >     >     process leading to this decision, and development has been
>     >     ongoing for
>     >     >     around two years now and I first started contributing to the
>     >     general
>     >     >     area of the work (asm.js at that time year before that).
>     >     >
>     >     >     I dispute that Mozilla Corp can demonstrate the merit of the
>     >     decision. I
>     >     >     have raised the problems with the CEO Chris on two
>     occasions, and
>     >     >     recently with the module owner without response. I believe
>     >     there is
>     >     >     merit in the objections, and that I can demonstrate better
>     >     performance
>     >     >     and a better plan. Where does that leave the Mozilla
>     community and
>     >     >     governance based on merit? Do I just give up and not bother?
>     >     >
>     >     >     My impression of working on this project is that Mozilla
>     Corp
>     >     dictated
>     >     >     the decisions, and one reason given was that the critical
>     >     issue was
>     >     >     getting agreement between the web browsers but this
>     would seem
>     >     to assume
>     >     >     that the Firefox community has no representation for the
>     product.
>     >     >
>     >     >     I was not consulted before the creation of the
>     WebAssembly CG,
>     >     the group
>     >     >     many never have been given a choice on how the Chairs were
>     >     appointed,
>     >     >     and in the end I am just ignored.
>     >     >
>     >     >     I could demonstrate better performance at the start of the
>     >     process and
>     >     >     better performance now, and can articulate a development
>     plan.
>     >     >
>     >     >     Regards
>     >     >     Douglas Crosher
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