Hi Jim,

Can you clarify what you mean by the "GPC lab metadata"? Are you referring to 
the CMH: LOINC hierarchy on Babel that we decided upon during Hackathon II? We 
are working on a project now to normalize our units, as coded LOINC is a poor 
predictor of the actual units used in the lab setting for those tests. We 
haven't developed a script to build metadataxml; rather we have a reference 
table with 27,864 LOINC codes and their associated metadataxml per the LOINC 
standard units in the multiaxial hierarchy. We do a lookup on that table to 
pull the metadata in to our client lab ontologies, but as you can probably 
surmise by now we ran in to a lot of issues initially with mismatched units 
that made the metadataxml basically useless unless the units matched exactly. 
That is what precipitated the unit normalization project. There are several 
upstream data source issues that depend on other teams and need to take place 
before that project can be completed, so we are targeting the creation of tha
 t curated LOINC ontology with standard units by the end of April.

Thanks,

Nate Apathy
Solution Manager: i2b2 | [email protected] | 816.201.2785

-----Original Message-----
From: Campbell, James R [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:54 PM
To: <[email protected]>; Apathy,Nate
Cc: Hickman, Hubert B; Campbell, Walter S; Munns, Michael B
Subject: Re: [gpc-informatics] #158: usable view of LOINC lab terms

Nate
So, if I understand, you had calculated or developed metadataxml for all the 
entries in the GPC lab metadata?  Wow, I did not understand that from 
Hackathon2 and we would love to get a copy of your java code to supplement our 
metadata browsing tools.  Did you develop a java-based computation of 
metadataxml from the LOINC release record?  We have considered that but have 
not had time.
I thought we might be providing an enhancement to your metadata build but I 
agree entirely that it seems irrelevant.
Jim

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> On Mar 27, 2015, at 1:11 PM, "GPC Informatics" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> #158: usable view of LOINC lab terms
> -------------------------+----------------------------
> Reporter:  rwaitman     |       Owner:  nateapathy
>     Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  assigned
> Priority:  major        |   Milestone:  data-domains3
> Component:  data-stds    |  Resolution:
> Keywords:               |  Blocked By:
> Blocking:               |
> -------------------------+----------------------------
>
> Comment (by nateapathy):
>
> We reviewed the metadata included in the UNMC LOINC hierarchy and 
> found
> 922 with metadata XML applied. We compared those leaf terms to our 
> current hierarchy and found 622 that overlapped with the 71,000+ terms 
> that are in our base hierarchy (the majority of which is hidden on 
> Babel). All of our metadata XML matched the data you had for yours, 
> only with a few semantic differences in naming conventions for tests within 
> the metadata panel.
>
> Since there is not a major material difference between these two sets 
> of metadata, I'm inclined to direct the group to the information I 
> shared in
> [https://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/158#comment:20
> comment20] on this thread. That comment includes a link to the base 
> multiaxial hierarchy from Regenstrief and the Java code we use to 
> transform that into our base LOINC hierarchy that was agreed upon as 
> the GPC hierarchy during Hackathon II.
>
> Let me know if there are any next steps or additional questions we 
> need to answer or clarify before we can close this ticket.
>
> --
> Ticket URL: 
> <http://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/158#comment:28>
> gpc-informatics <http://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/>
> Greater Plains Network - Informatics

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