Nate
Yes, I am referring to metadata agreed from H2.  When we rolled out 
metadataxml, we had to tweak some units but I matched those reported in our 
i2b2 to UCUM reference and tailored to our lab reports.  Are you saying that 
you are comparing Regenstrief to local us=nits and compiling a lexicon of 
conversions into the metadataxml?  I would be interested to discuss by call at 
your convenience

ETA for SNOMED test load?
Jim  

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> On Mar 30, 2015, at 4:03 PM, "Apathy,Nate" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Can you clarify what you mean by the "GPC lab metadata"? Are you referring to 
> the CMH: LOINC hierarchy on Babel that we decided upon during Hackathon II? 
> We are working on a project now to normalize our units, as coded LOINC is a 
> poor predictor of the actual units used in the lab setting for those tests. 
> We haven't developed a script to build metadataxml; rather we have a 
> reference table with 27,864 LOINC codes and their associated metadataxml per 
> the LOINC standard units in the multiaxial hierarchy. We do a lookup on that 
> table to pull the metadata in to our client lab ontologies, but as you can 
> probably surmise by now we ran in to a lot of issues initially with 
> mismatched units that made the metadataxml basically useless unless the units 
> matched exactly. That is what precipitated the unit normalization project. 
> There are several upstream data source issues that depend on other teams and 
> need to take place before that project can be completed, so we are targeting 
> the creation of t
 hat curated LOINC ontology with standard units by the end of April.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nate Apathy
> Solution Manager: i2b2 | [email protected] | 816.201.2785
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Campbell, James R [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:54 PM
> To: <[email protected]>; Apathy,Nate
> Cc: Hickman, Hubert B; Campbell, Walter S; Munns, Michael B
> Subject: Re: [gpc-informatics] #158: usable view of LOINC lab terms
> 
> Nate
> So, if I understand, you had calculated or developed metadataxml for all the 
> entries in the GPC lab metadata?  Wow, I did not understand that from 
> Hackathon2 and we would love to get a copy of your java code to supplement 
> our metadata browsing tools.  Did you develop a java-based computation of 
> metadataxml from the LOINC release record?  We have considered that but have 
> not had time.
> I thought we might be providing an enhancement to your metadata build but I 
> agree entirely that it seems irrelevant.
> Jim
> 
> James R. Campbell MD
> [email protected]
> Office: 402-559-7505
> Secretary: 402-559-7299
> Pager: 402-888-1230
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2015, at 1:11 PM, "GPC Informatics" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> #158: usable view of LOINC lab terms
>> -------------------------+----------------------------
>> Reporter:  rwaitman     |       Owner:  nateapathy
>>    Type:  enhancement  |      Status:  assigned
>> Priority:  major        |   Milestone:  data-domains3
>> Component:  data-stds    |  Resolution:
>> Keywords:               |  Blocked By:
>> Blocking:               |
>> -------------------------+----------------------------
>> 
>> Comment (by nateapathy):
>> 
>> We reviewed the metadata included in the UNMC LOINC hierarchy and 
>> found
>> 922 with metadata XML applied. We compared those leaf terms to our 
>> current hierarchy and found 622 that overlapped with the 71,000+ terms 
>> that are in our base hierarchy (the majority of which is hidden on 
>> Babel). All of our metadata XML matched the data you had for yours, 
>> only with a few semantic differences in naming conventions for tests within 
>> the metadata panel.
>> 
>> Since there is not a major material difference between these two sets 
>> of metadata, I'm inclined to direct the group to the information I 
>> shared in
>> [https://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/158#comment:20
>> comment20] on this thread. That comment includes a link to the base 
>> multiaxial hierarchy from Regenstrief and the Java code we use to 
>> transform that into our base LOINC hierarchy that was agreed upon as 
>> the GPC hierarchy during Hackathon II.
>> 
>> Let me know if there are any next steps or additional questions we 
>> need to answer or clarify before we can close this ticket.
>> 
>> --
>> Ticket URL: 
>> <http://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/trac/Project/ticket/158#comment:28>
>> gpc-informatics <http://informatics.gpcnetwork.org/>
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