One way to see who is on the group is to post a message and then see what out of office replies you get...

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Ian Cheong wrote:

At 6:28 pm +1000 7/7/06, David More wrote:

Hi Michael,

I would like names of who serves on this- so we can all see if there is anyone who really knows something about Health IT.

Your assertion about their (the groups) skepticism does not work for me..and the accusation that I am not trying to make something real happen I find offensive in the extreme. To date I do not know of a single clinical outcome that NEHTA was even slightly involved with - after they have been operational for 2+ years.

Tell me where I am wrong!

I wonder how influential, if at all, your advice is? What difference have you made? From what I see not much..let us know how the world is a better place for the fees you have been paid..or are you "commercial in confidence"?

Failing that..

Maybe you could tell the group what topics are being discussed..what the general views are and what all this means for both GPs and other stakeholders.

If you can't - it would be good to tell us the contact who can..or is that secret as well?

If you are unable to do that, you will convince me, at least, that our democracy has gone to hell in a hand basket.

The culture of secrecy emerging in our nation is a much more clear and present danger to our democracy, our way of life and our children's future than anything Al_Quaida can do.

Cheers

David


Unfortunately, that is the nature of the democracy we live in. I'm not sure the culture is emerging, I think it has been present for a very long time in all Western democracies.

It will probably not change until fundamental system parameters set in legislation are changed...starting with things like:
* concentration of power vested in ministers, politicians, bureaucrats
* exposure of government decisions to external democratic input

The culture of governments is not a lot different from the culture of corporations in respect of concentration of power and control of information as a means to control perception and hence externally perceived value.

The way the system is, the people in charge will not be accountable until they have finished trying to do what they set out to or the auditor general steps in on the value for money equation.

Hammering Michael or any other member of the group is fruitless. Their only power is to sit and have the opportunity to be heard or to walk away. The only way doctors could exert more power is to collectively walk away which requires them to be both organised and united - which we all know is impossible......


Ian.
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