Wal Tracey wrote:
If the College, ADGP, Divisions took the time to talk to GPs they would
find that the views expressed by Richard & myself and those of Alex and
Horst ( the Death of Individual Responsibility) regarding Divisions
Accreditation etc are commonplace.
We too were close to telling AGPAL to bugger off this time but relented.
After our impending accreditation we will not be lining up again.
Wal,
We in Division land are very aware of the tensions that you describe,
and try to put similar points to those with the say, usually that aren't
greeted warmly. I feel, however, we've contributed in many ways to
helping GPs negotiate the landscape they find themselves in.
What individual Divisions provide no doubt varies in quality and value
to members. I can only say I believe we've tried to do our best in a
difficult environment for both GPs and Divisions. What lays ahead when
we are expected to be getting patient-level data to justify our
existence within the next two years is unknown.
My own take re the IM&T scene is everyone failure to own up to the real
costs and resource and skill deficits in which most practices now find
themselves. I think me recent message underpins that.
Greg
On 09/08/2006, at 10:00 PM, Richard Hosking wrote:
Divisions remain largely irrelevant to me. I have had little contact
since resigning as Director and Treasurer of the local Division after
we amalgamated with the one next door in 2001. When I went to their
AGM last year it seemed that not much had changed.
They are not "member based organizations" but NGOs whose main
customer/funder is Govt. Their role is to facilitate govt programs by
their local contacts with GPs and others. If they would grasp this
nettle and become more realistic, I believe they would be more
acceptable to both Govt and GPs.
Some of these programs are indeed potentially useful.
The problem is that I dont believe Divisions in general are competent
and robust enough to achieve such a difficult task - many of them
barely survive doing very little in the cocoon of full Govt funding
While Divisions attempt to be independent political players, they
upset both Govt and the other GP organizations. Unity is a perpetual
intractable problem in GP land. Probably the best way to achieve it
would be to kill off a few of the players
R
Greg Twyford wrote:
Wal Tracey wrote:
On 31/07/2006, at 10:24 PM, Richard Hosking wrote:
Richard
Most people would agree that a national deidentified dataset may be
valuable in the future.
I can see a big push looming from ADGP to drive their agendas using
the existing infrastructure of the Divisions
This is our opportunity to kill off the whole divisions apparatus.
We should studiously ignore them and all their projects.
Wal,
You see no value in Divisions, even in their local activities which
most try to make relevant to members? I admit that we have become
less able to be self-directive and respond to local needs and more
bound to objectives determined in Canberra, but I'm surprised you are
so negative.
Yes, we mostly wonder about ADGP too, and we've been making our
concerns felt as best we can.
Greg
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