On Wednesday 29 November 2006 19:33, Andrew wrote:
> They must be getting ripped blind according to Horst but hang on a minute,
> -They got their Netcomm modems paid for by the HIC
> -And they got their Cyberguard firewalls paid for by the HIC.
> -And it was all installed and tested by a professional paid for by the HIC
> (ok it was just little old me installing)
> -And they only pay about 20% of the monthly bills after the subsidisation
> from the HIC

"paid for by the HIC". And where do you think the HIC has got the money 
from???
Doesn't make me happy feeding overcharging opportunists with sour earned 
taxpayers money

> So lets add it up,
> Roughly $120 month for business grade ADSL1 (up to 8mbps) or ADSL2, fixed
> IP, the best service of any ISP in Oz
> For which they effectively pay about ~$30 a month in year 1.

- "best service of any ISP in OZ" - any chance to substantiate this claim?
- define "business grade"
- ADSL2 only obtainable by minority

> Compared to Horst
> -had to install it himself,

> -had to buy his own ADSL modem
who says so? You are making assumptions

> -Had to buy (ok he probably built it out of recycled mobile phone
> processors) his own firewall.
The ISP provided Netcomm modem would have had a built in firewall, but I 
needed a load balancing router for multiple connections, so yes, I bought 
one.

> -who is paying $70 a month,

for 60GB of traffic!

> And in their second year of B4H with Onthenet the monthly charges are
> completely covered by HIC so they pay $0.00 a month.
> And being a 'normal' medical centre they have no need to download ISO's of
> Linux or huge movies so the miserable download caps mean no-one else on the
> ISP's network is hogging the bandwidth when they want to use the Internet
> to quickly bill a patient at the front desk or appease a patient during a
> consult by showing them something on the web.

If those medical centres had a clue in IT they would use their Internet 
connection for unattended offsite backups. But wait, they can't - waaaay too  
expensive under B4H plans.
They also might do VoIP - ah, bugger, bandwith use so expensive, only does for 
a few Skype calls with friends :-(((((
And if they get sick of world wide waiting for high quality dermatological 
images trickling through their "broadband", they would probably find that 
under their plans it would be cheaper to fly to Heidelberg and copy the data 
onto an external hard disk rather than simply mirroring ther image servers 
locally via the net. And so forth.
They probably haven't discovered CME podcasts either I suppose, or enjoying 
masterful free Art movies from the French academy of  Arts ...

> Who's mad here again ?

Maybe mad is the wrong word. Ignorant perhaps? Luddite? Naive?

Horst
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