what they need to make it plain as day, is an application that has
all it's dependent components sitting in one directory, like 
how firefox for linux does it. Then the backup process becomes as 
simple as backing up one directory's contents. Windows, and to a less
opaque extent, debian, cover everything in dependency webs with
their shared dll setup , and OS dependent install/remove program 
setups , that no wonder users don't want to spend the hours needed
to get a handle of how things are setup. However, most of the time,
it's just a matter of knowing where the root file directory of your data
is, and in any sensible db application, just a matter of archiving
that directory, and restoring the archive. 
Systems will offer application specific dump and reload,such as
postgres, but often there may be problems between do this between
different versions, or one gets the character encoding wrong,
and really just the basic skill of knowing how to zip up a directory
and unzip it should be all that's required.
 

 
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 16:02 +1000, Cedric Meyerowitz wrote:
> Tim
> 
> Your options are to buy an extra PC that you keep at work to test backups.
> Or have a PC at home that is yours and do it there.  Thirdly, use your kids
> PC.  All you do afterwards is delete the database again, but for that you
> need some know how. Fourthly get an IT expert to do it for you, but then he
> has a copy of your data & who knows what he or she will do with it.
> 
> Now at home I also have firewalls, antivirus software etc.  My kids can't
> get into my Medcal software as it is password protected etc.  My firewall
> etc at home is just as good as mine at work.
> 
> So with your fears it seems the 1st option is the only one ie. The Doctors
> that don't know, must buy an extra PC to test backups.  In my case I simply
> test my backups at home.  In an emergency (if AGPAL wants to see how I test
> my backups), I can restore it onto one of my work stations - again something
> a non IT literate GP may muck up.
> 
> 
> Cedric
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Tim Churches
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2007 3:51 PM
> To: General Practice Computing Group Talk
> Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] backup!
> 
> 
> Cedric Meyerowitz wrote:
> > Doctors should ask if they don't know.  Most if not all GP's has a PC 
> > at home (or their kids has one).  Install your software at home & test 
> > backup-restore there.
> 
> I really don't want to think about the security and privacy hazards
> associated with restoring a database chock full of highly confidential,
> fully identified patient medical data onto a teenager's home PC... Or any
> home PC, for that matter, given that the degree of physical,
> anti-virus/anti-trojan and firewall protection afforded to home PCs rarely
> meets the standard required for general practice computer networks.
> 
> Does anyone else see a problem with what Cedric is suggesting?
> 
> Tim C
> 
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