Agree with the earlier positive kyocera comments We have a fleet of 10 Kyoceras purchased in mid 2003 - used an abused by doctors in the dual bin and hand feed configuration
Older model obviously now - "kyocera mita FS 1010" One was a bit lemony and has gone to the great landfill in the back blocks Remaining 9 still strong but getting a little tired - bit smudgy despite a service and clean - however still working! Little to go wrong, easy to extract paper jams etc, easy to change toner If used in the doctors rooms important to check "time to first page out" - as obviously lots of stop start printing of scripts etc Some other printers are fast BUT slow for the first page out! Craig -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2007 10:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Gpcg_talk Digest, Vol 20, Issue 49 Send Gpcg_talk mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://ozdocit.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpcg_talk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Gpcg_talk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Desktop printer (Michael Christie) 2. Re: Desktop printer (Greg Twyford) 3. Re: Desktop printer (Simon James) 4. RE: Desktop printer (James) 5. RE: Desktop printer (James) 6. footer was Re: [GPCG_TALK] Desktop printer (Elizabeth Dodd) 7. Re: Desktop printer (Ian Cheong) 8. Re: Desktop printer (Ian Cheong) 9. Re: Desktop printer (Jel Coward) 10. Re: Desktop printer (Greg Twyford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:30:17 +1000 From: Michael Christie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [GPCG_TALK] Desktop printer To: GPCG_Talk <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Have to buy 3 printers for the Drs desktop, preferably with at least 2 trays. Looked at Kyocera FS 1030D with extra tray costs $620. Any suggestions re printers for cheaper price? Rgds Michael Christie -- **************************************************************************** **************************************************************************** *** This communication is confidential to the named addressee, may contain legally privileged information and is subject to copyright. 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All the 1000 series are fast enough, may have 3-year warranty [check this, my 1010 does], have the 100,000 page-rated print engine and have very low toner cost per page. The double-siding works well enough. You can buy cheaper laser printers with similar features, but I've yet to see any as robust and with better TCO. Greg -- Greg Twyford Information Management & Technology Program Officer Canterbury Division of General Practice E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph.: 02 9787 9033 Fax: 02 9787 9200 PRIVATE & CONFIDENTIAL *********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail and their attached files, including replies and forwarded copies, are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be legally privileged or prohibited from disclosure and unauthorised use. 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All the 1000 series are fast > enough, may have 3-year warranty [check this, my 1010 does], have the > 100,000 page-rated print engine and have very low toner cost per page. > The double-siding works well enough. > > You can buy cheaper laser printers with similar features, but I've yet > to see any as robust and with better TCO. Agree. We have had a fleet of 1010s with the third tray installed in our practice for a couple of years and haven't had a single problem. Path request paper in 1 tray, script paper in the another. Letter head, plain A4, other misc forms etc get fed via the multipurpose tray. I still like HP from the 4000 series up, but think Kyocera has their measure for personal and small workgroup laser printers. Cheers, Simon ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 19:48:04 +1000 From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [GPCG_TALK] Desktop printer To: "'General Practice Computing Group Talk'" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" HI Michael I have a few types but love the brother mono laser I think it is a model 5020 or similar. The second tray cost about as much as the printer at about $200 or so. The toner TN5060 is about 6000 pages at about 100 or 60 for a recycled ( I would not use recycled toner more than once after a nasty experience with one wreaking a relatively new printer for me. Regards James Bishop Longevity Medical Ph 03 98482009 Fax 03 98407064 Mb 0413582615 Do not send any Medical Information to this email address. Secure message transfer via Argus or other encrypted message services can occur. Please see the practice manger if you feel this is required. This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. No representation is made that this email or any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. The email sent to and from this address may be monitored by Longevity Medical or others and is not secured. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 20:06:17 +1000 From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [GPCG_TALK] Desktop printer To: "'General Practice Computing Group Talk'" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Michael Sorry it was a brother model 5240 http://www.brother.com.au/Products/Printer_productoverview.asp?ProductID=198 &SubCategoryID=3 Accessories below http://www.brother.com.au/Products/Printer_options.asp?ProductID=198&Product TypeID=1&Solution=&subCategoryID=3 Regards James Bishop Longevity Medical Ph 03 98482009 Fax 03 98407064 Mb 0413582615 Do not send any Medical Information to this email address. Secure message transfer via Argus or other encrypted message services can occur. Please see the practice manger if you feel this is required. 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The email sent to and from this address may be monitored by Longevity Medical or others and is not secured. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 20:16:10 +1000 From: Elizabeth Dodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: footer was Re: [GPCG_TALK] Desktop printer To: General Practice Computing Group Talk <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Wednesday 23 May 2007 20:06, James wrote: > Do not send any Medical Information to this email address. Secure message > transfer via Argus or other encrypted message services can occur. Please > see the practice manger if you feel this is required. you've got a misspelling here and have had for ages. obviously you are wasting your time putting this on the bottom because nobody reads it -- Putt's Law: Technology is dominated by two types of people: Those who understand what they do not manage. Those who manage what they do not understand. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 21:08:21 +1000 From: Ian Cheong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] Desktop printer To: General Practice Computing Group Talk <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 3:30 pm +1000 23/5/07, Michael Christie wrote: >Have to buy 3 printers for the Drs desktop, preferably with at least 2 >trays. >Looked at Kyocera FS 1030D with extra tray costs $620. >Any suggestions re printers for cheaper price? >Rgds >Michael Christie We have Samsung ML-2250 (PCL printers) x 9 for 12 months (most of them). One in each consulting room + 2 at front desk. A couple have had minor mechanical problems with feeding mechanism fixed under warranty (did we get the bad batch?) but otherwise they seem pretty good/fast/relaible. Very good reviews. Slightly noisy. Extra paper tray was $150 I think. We got some end of line printers including extra paper tray for $400. Our model is now obsolete. New model has PCL/postscript and network enabled. http://www.samsung.com/au/products/printerfaxcopysolutions/printerfaxcopysol utions/ml_2571n.asp Not sure how the new tray system works, cause ours has 50sheet bypass feeder for pathology and other preprinted forms, trays for plain and scripts. New printer doesn't seem to have a tray like ours. I have no qualms buying more similar ones. At home I have a 13year old HP laserjet still going strong (if a little on the slow side at 4ppm). Ian. -- Dr Ian R Cheong FRACGP Springwood Group General Practice Shop 7 Arndale Shopping Centre Cnr Fitzgerald Ave and Cinderella Dve Springwood QLD 4127 Ph 07 3208 6122 Fax 07 3208 6133 Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 00:40:10 +1000 From: Ian Cheong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] Desktop printer To: General Practice Computing Group Talk <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 9:08 pm +1000 23/5/07, Ian Cheong wrote: >At 3:30 pm +1000 23/5/07, Michael Christie wrote: >>Have to buy 3 printers for the Drs desktop, preferably with at least 2 >>trays. >>Looked at Kyocera FS 1030D with extra tray costs $620. >>Any suggestions re printers for cheaper price? >>Rgds >>Michael Christie > >We have Samsung ML-2250 (PCL printers) x 9 for 12 months (most of >them). One in each consulting room + 2 at front desk. A couple have >had minor mechanical problems with feeding mechanism fixed under >warranty (did we get the bad batch?) but otherwise they seem pretty >good/fast/relaible. Very good reviews. Slightly noisy. > >Extra paper tray was $150 I think. In a second purchase, we got some >end of line printers including extra paper tray for $400. > >Our model is now obsolete. New model has PCL/postscript and network enabled. > >http://www.samsung.com/au/products/printerfaxcopysolutions/printerfaxcopyso lutions/ml_2571n.asp > >Not sure how the new tray system works, cause ours has 50sheet >bypass feeder for pathology and other preprinted forms, trays for >plain and scripts. New printer doesn't seem to have a tray like ours. > >I have no qualms buying more similar ones. At home I have a 13year >old HP laserjet still going strong (if a little on the slow side at >4ppm). > >Ian. Review of the new low-end Samsung printer reveals they have downgraded the paper handling ability. Samsung model with similar paper handling functionality to ours is in the next price bracket (rrp $699) but selling for way less http://www.samsung.com/au/products/printerfaxcopysolutions/printerfaxcopysol utions/ml_3051n.asp ML-3051N appears to be $250-$270 + $200 for extra tray. Includes network interface and a status display - which would be a boon because users at our place have trouble deciphering the flashing red/green light on ours! If my HP dies, I'll replace it with one of these. Ian. -- Dr Ian R Cheong, BMedSc, FRACGP, GradDipCompSc, MBA(Exec) Health Informatics Consultant, Brisbane, Australia Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for urgent matters, please send a copy to my practice email as well: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) PRIVACY NOTE I am happy for others to forward on email sent by me to public email lists. Please ask my permission first if you wish to forward private email to other parties. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:58:14 -0700 From: Jel Coward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] Desktop printer To: General Practice Computing Group Talk <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Michael Christie wrote: > Have to buy 3 printers for the Drs desktop, preferably with at least 2 > trays. > Looked at Kyocera FS 1030D with extra tray costs $620. > Any suggestions re printers for cheaper price? > Rgds > Michael Christie > HP 1012's have been bomber here. Short latency is essential. Not really true 2 bin but nearly. Jel ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:05:17 +1000 From: Greg Twyford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] Desktop printer To: General Practice Computing Group Talk <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed James wrote: > Hi Michael > Sorry it was a brother model 5240 > http://www.brother.com.au/Products/Printer_productoverview.asp?ProductID=198 > &SubCategoryID=3 > > Accessories below > > http://www.brother.com.au/Products/Printer_options.asp?ProductID=198&Product > TypeID=1&Solution=&subCategoryID=3 James, My beef about Brother printers, especially the cheap ones, is the low print-engine life. Their higher-end MFCs like the 8440 and 8660 are great, however, and I'm prepared to consider 12,000 ~ 24,000 page engine life for all the other good features and reliability. We us an 8660 for network faxing and virtually do no manual faxing any more. Everything runs across our LAN. All faxes are received at our admin person's PC and he forwards them to us through our internal E-mail as a jpg. Working very well for 3-months now. They do great B7W scanning with MD too. Greg -- Greg Twyford Information Management & Technology Program Officer Canterbury Division of General Practice E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph.: 02 9787 9033 Fax: 02 9787 9200 PRIVATE & CONFIDENTIAL *********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail and their attached files, including replies and forwarded copies, are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be legally privileged or prohibited from disclosure and unauthorised use. If you are not the intended recipient, any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance upon this message or its attachments is prohibited. 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