Yes the difference is most likely this -
The 512/512 plan @$79 is most likely thru Telstra exchange equipment.
And the other is SHDSL using 2 pieces of copper exclusively, quite likely
using the ISP's own exchange equipment.
i.e. you cannot use voice/fax over it at all.
See this from Wikipedia; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHDSL

"G.SHDSL features symmetrical data rates from 192 kbit/s to 2,304 kbit/s of
payload in 64 kbit/s increments for one pair and 384 kbit/s to 4,608 kbit/s
in 128 kbit/s increments for two pair applications."


So it is more expensive because of several things;
1. The ISP orders and installs the copper lines, i.e. you can't whack SHDSL
on your existing fax line.
2. quite often they have to install l2 pairs of copper to achieve the speed
or distance
3. the modems are not normal $100 netcomms they are specialised SHDSL
jobbies.
4. The target service availability is higher than normal DSL.

The reduced download speed whilst uploading has nothing to do with duplex
and everything to do with TCPIP as timely suggested  by Horst :)
Try the same thing on a LAN and get the same result.

Andrew.C

<snip>
Examples of different Connections:
Westnet 512/512 SDSL = $79 / month (forget about the options)
Westnet 512/512 SHDSL = $309 / Month 

Can you explain the difference in these plans Andrew ?
In reality, the second plan will enable upload and download at the same
speed at the same time.

I forgive you mate.....maybe you did have a bad hair day.

Regards
Barry Lollo
FUD Spreader - Apparently !!!

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Look here;
http://www.dslforum.org/aboutdsl/adsl_tutorial.html



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Hi Andrew,

Are you suggesting that an ADSL connection can function at peak
performance
in both the up and down directions simultaneously? As with dial-up modem
connections, I don't think this is the case (and I think that was all
Barry
was trying to say).

Cheers,
Simon



> What on earth are you talking about ???
> 
> Half duplex DSL ????
> 
> 'What the' as Rove would say ???
> 
> Do you have a reference to a web site explaining half duplex dsl
connections
> or is that a google april fools joke :)
> 
> Talk about spreading FUD
> 
> Andrew.C
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Behalf Of Barry Lollo
> Sent: Monday, 18 June 2007 6:12 PM
> To: General Practice Computing Group Talk
> Subject: RE: [GPCG_TALK] virtual servers
> 
> Duncan,
> 
> David is right, A symmetrical DSL connection may improve performance,
> however they are still typically a "Half Duplex" connection.  That
means
> data can only travel in one direction at any one point in time.
Another
> option if the link is the issue, is a "Full Duplex" link. ISP's call
> this different things, but essentailly you will pay a premium for
this.
> Now if there is a lot of traffic outbound, as well as inbound, there
> will be data flowing in both directions at the same time, improving
link
> performance.  Again......if the link is the issue.
> 
> Regards
> Barry Lollo 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Guest
> Sent: Monday, 18 June 2007 7:37 AM
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> Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] virtual servers
> 
> Duncan Guy wrote:
>> it is slower currently at TS remote sites,
> Maximise your upload speed, probably with symmetrical DSL, assuming
your
> clients have adequate download speed.
> 
>> but still sluggish at primary site, and the TS server has high
>> resource usage,
> App problem or TS problem?
> 
> If all else fails throw another server at it. :-)
> 
> David
> 
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