Does not this depend on the License type... Being licensed by data... gives you the ability to spin as much client nodes as possible... including to the ESS cluster right?
On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 at 21:38, Daniel Kidger <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes I am aware of the FAQ, and it particular Q13.17 which says: > > *No, systems from OEM vendors are considered distinct products even when > they embed IBM Spectrum Scale. They cannot be part of the same cluster as > IBM licenses.* > > But if this statement is taken literally, then once a customer has bought > say a Lenovo GSS/DSS-G, they are then "locked-in" to buying more storage > other OEM/ESA partners (Lenovo, Bull, DDN, etc.), as above statement > suggests that they cannot add IBM storage such as ESS to their GPFS cluster. > > Daniel > > _________________________________________________________ > *Daniel Kidger* > IBM Technical Sales Specialist > Spectrum Scale, Spectrum NAS and IBM Cloud Object Store > > +44-(0)7818 522 266 > [email protected] > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/687cf790-fe65-4a92-b129-d23ae41862ac/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/8153c6a7-3e02-40be-87ee-24e27ae9459c/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/78197e2c-4277-4ec9-808b-ad6abe1e1b16/public_url> > > > > > ----- Original message ----- > From: "RICHARD RUPP" <[email protected]> > Sent by: [email protected] > To: gpfsug main discussion list <[email protected]> > Cc: > Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Adding ESS to existing Scale Cluster > Date: Sun, Apr 7, 2019 4:49 PM > > > *This has been publically documented in the Spectrum Scale FAQ Q13.17, > Q13.18 and Q13.19.* > > Regards, > > *Richard Rupp*, Sales Specialist, *Phone:* *1-347-510-6746* > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Daniel Kidger" ---04/06/2019 10:12:12 > AM---There is a non-technical issue you may need to consider.]"Daniel > Kidger" ---04/06/2019 10:12:12 AM---There is a non-technical issue you may > need to consider. IBM has set licensing rules about mixing in > > From: "Daniel Kidger" <[email protected]> > To: "gpfsug main discussion list" <[email protected]> > Date: 04/06/2019 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Adding ESS to existing Scale Cluster > Sent by: [email protected] > ------------------------------ > > > > There is a non-technical issue you may need to consider. > IBM has set licensing rules about mixing in the same Spectrum Scale > cluster both ESS from IBM and 3rd party storage that is licensed under > ESA/OEM (Lenovo, DDN, Bull, Pixit et al.). > > I am sure Carl Zetie or other IBMers who watch this list can explain the > exact restrictions. > > Daniel > > _________________________________________________________ > *Daniel Kidger* > IBM Technical Sales Specialist > Spectrum Scale, Spectrum NAS and IBM Cloud Object Store > > *+* <+44-7818%20522%20266>*44-(0)7818 522 266* <+44-7818%20522%20266> > *[email protected]* <[email protected]> > > > > On 3 Apr 2019, at 19:47, Sanchez, Paul <*[email protected]* > <[email protected]>> wrote: > > - > - > - > - note though you can't have GNR based vdisks (ESS/DSS-G) in > the same storage pool. > > At one time there was definitely a warning from IBM in the docs > about not mixing big-endian and little-endian GNR in the same > cluster/filesystem. But at least since Nov 2017, IBM has published > videos > showing clusters containing both. (In my opinion, they had to support > this > because they changed the endian-ness of the ESS from BE to LE.) > > I don't know about all ancillary components (e.g. GUI) but as for > Scale itself, I can confirm that filesystems can contain NSDs which are > provided by ESS(BE), ESS(LE), GSS, and DSS in all combinations, along > with > SAN storage based NSD servers. We typically do rolling upgrades of GNR > building blocks by adding blocks to an existing cluster, emptying and > removing the existing blocks, upgrading those in isolation, then > repeating > with the next cluster. As a result, we have had every combination in > play > at some point in time. Care just needs to be taken with nodeclass naming > and mmchconfig parameters. (We derive the correct params for each new > building block from its final config after upgrading/testing it in > isolation.) > > -Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: *[email protected]* > <[email protected]> < > *[email protected]* > <[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Simon > Thompson > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 12:18 PM > To: gpfsug main discussion list <*[email protected]* > <[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Adding ESS to existing Scale Cluster > > We have DSS-G (Lenovo equivalent) in the same cluster as other > SAN/IB storage (IBM, DDN). But we don't have them in the same > file-system. > > In theory as a different pool it should work, note though you can't > have GNR based vdisks (ESS/DSS-G) in the same storage pool. > > And if you want to move to new block size or v5 variable sunblocks > then you are going to have to have a new filesystem and copy data. So it > depends what your endgame is really. We just did such a process and one > of > my colleagues is going to talk about it at the London user group in May. > > Simon > ________________________________________ > From: *[email protected]* > <[email protected]> [ > *[email protected]* > <[email protected]>] on behalf of > *[email protected]* > <[email protected]> [ > *[email protected]* > <[email protected]>] > Sent: 03 April 2019 17:12 > To: *[email protected]* > <[email protected]> > Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Adding ESS to existing Scale Cluster > > We are planning to add an ESS GL6 system to our existing Spectrum > Scale cluster. Can the ESS nodes be added to existing scale cluster > without > changing existing cluster name? Or do we need to create a new scale > cluster > with ESS and import existing filesystems into the new ESS cluster? > > Prasad Surampudi > Sr. Systems Engineer > The ATS Group > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at *spectrumscale.org* <http://spectrumscale.org> > *http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss > <http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss>* > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at *spectrumscale.org* <http://spectrumscale.org> > *http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss > <http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss>* > > Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number > 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU > > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org > http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org > http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss > > > Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number > 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU > > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org > http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss >
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