got it now. Sorry, I miss understood that. I was already aware. =)
On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 at 23:35, Daniel Kidger <[email protected]> wrote: > Jose, > I was not considering client nodes at all. > Under the current license models, all licenses are capacity based (in two > flavours: per-TiB or per-disk), and so adding new clients is never a > licensing issue. > My point was that if you own an OEM supplied cluster from say Lenovo, you > can add to that legally from many vendors , just not from IBM themselves. > (or maybe the FAQ rules need further clarification?) > Daniel > > _________________________________________________________ > *Daniel Kidger* > IBM Technical Sales Specialist > Spectrum Scale, Spectrum NAS and IBM Cloud Object Store > > +44-(0)7818 522 266 > [email protected] > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/687cf790-fe65-4a92-b129-d23ae41862ac/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/8153c6a7-3e02-40be-87ee-24e27ae9459c/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/78197e2c-4277-4ec9-808b-ad6abe1e1b16/public_url> > > > > > ----- Original message ----- > From: "José Filipe Higino" <[email protected]> > Sent by: [email protected] > To: gpfsug main discussion list <[email protected]> > Cc: > Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Adding ESS to existing Scale Cluster > Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2019 11:52 AM > > Does not this depend on the License type... > > Being licensed by data... gives you the ability to spin as much client > nodes as possible... including to the ESS cluster right? > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 at 21:38, Daniel Kidger <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Yes I am aware of the FAQ, and it particular Q13.17 which says: > > *No, systems from OEM vendors are considered distinct products even when > they embed IBM Spectrum Scale. They cannot be part of the same cluster as > IBM licenses.* > > But if this statement is taken literally, then once a customer has bought > say a Lenovo GSS/DSS-G, they are then "locked-in" to buying more storage > other OEM/ESA partners (Lenovo, Bull, DDN, etc.), as above statement > suggests that they cannot add IBM storage such as ESS to their GPFS cluster. > > Daniel > > _________________________________________________________ > *Daniel Kidger* > IBM Technical Sales Specialist > Spectrum Scale, Spectrum NAS and IBM Cloud Object Store > > +44-(0)7818 522 266 > [email protected] > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/687cf790-fe65-4a92-b129-d23ae41862ac/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/8153c6a7-3e02-40be-87ee-24e27ae9459c/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/78197e2c-4277-4ec9-808b-ad6abe1e1b16/public_url> > > > > > ----- Original message ----- > From: "RICHARD RUPP" <[email protected]> > Sent by: [email protected] > To: gpfsug main discussion list <[email protected]> > Cc: > Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Adding ESS to existing Scale Cluster > Date: Sun, Apr 7, 2019 4:49 PM > > > *This has been publically documented in the Spectrum Scale FAQ Q13.17, > Q13.18 and Q13.19.* > > Regards, > > *Richard Rupp*, Sales Specialist, *Phone:* *1-347-510-6746* > > > [image: Inactive hide details for "Daniel Kidger" ---04/06/2019 10:12:12 > AM---There is a non-technical issue you may need to consider.]"Daniel > Kidger" ---04/06/2019 10:12:12 AM---There is a non-technical issue you may > need to consider. IBM has set licensing rules about mixing in > > From: "Daniel Kidger" <[email protected]> > To: "gpfsug main discussion list" <[email protected]> > Date: 04/06/2019 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Adding ESS to existing Scale Cluster > Sent by: [email protected] > ------------------------------ > > > > There is a non-technical issue you may need to consider. > IBM has set licensing rules about mixing in the same Spectrum Scale > cluster both ESS from IBM and 3rd party storage that is licensed under > ESA/OEM (Lenovo, DDN, Bull, Pixit et al.). > > I am sure Carl Zetie or other IBMers who watch this list can explain the > exact restrictions. > > Daniel > > _________________________________________________________ > *Daniel Kidger* > IBM Technical Sales Specialist > Spectrum Scale, Spectrum NAS and IBM Cloud Object Store > > *+* <+44-7818%20522%20266>*44-(0)7818 522 266* <+44-7818%20522%20266> > *[email protected]* <[email protected]> > > > > On 3 Apr 2019, at 19:47, Sanchez, Paul <*[email protected]* > <[email protected]>> wrote: > > - > - > - > - note though you can't have GNR based vdisks (ESS/DSS-G) in > the same storage pool. > > At one time there was definitely a warning from IBM in the docs > about not mixing big-endian and little-endian GNR in the same > cluster/filesystem. But at least since Nov 2017, IBM has published > videos > showing clusters containing both. (In my opinion, they had to support > this > because they changed the endian-ness of the ESS from BE to LE.) > > I don't know about all ancillary components (e.g. GUI) but as for > Scale itself, I can confirm that filesystems can contain NSDs which are > provided by ESS(BE), ESS(LE), GSS, and DSS in all combinations, along > with > SAN storage based NSD servers. We typically do rolling upgrades of GNR > building blocks by adding blocks to an existing cluster, emptying and > removing the existing blocks, upgrading those in isolation, then > repeating > with the next cluster. As a result, we have had every combination in > play > at some point in time. Care just needs to be taken with nodeclass naming > and mmchconfig parameters. (We derive the correct params for each new > building block from its final config after upgrading/testing it in > isolation.) > > -Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: *[email protected]* > <[email protected]> < > *[email protected]* > <[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Simon > Thompson > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 12:18 PM > To: gpfsug main discussion list <*[email protected]* > <[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Adding ESS to existing Scale Cluster > > We have DSS-G (Lenovo equivalent) in the same cluster as other > SAN/IB storage (IBM, DDN). But we don't have them in the same > file-system. > > In theory as a different pool it should work, note though you can't > have GNR based vdisks (ESS/DSS-G) in the same storage pool. > > And if you want to move to new block size or v5 variable sunblocks > then you are going to have to have a new filesystem and copy data. So it > depends what your endgame is really. We just did such a process and one > of > my colleagues is going to talk about it at the London user group in May. > > Simon > ________________________________________ > From: *[email protected]* > <[email protected]> [ > *[email protected]* > <[email protected]>] on behalf of > *[email protected]* > <[email protected]> [ > *[email protected]* > <[email protected]>] > Sent: 03 April 2019 17:12 > To: *[email protected]* > <[email protected]> > Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Adding ESS to existing Scale Cluster > > We are planning to add an ESS GL6 system to our existing Spectrum > Scale cluster. Can the ESS nodes be added to existing scale cluster > without > changing existing cluster name? Or do we need to create a new scale > cluster > with ESS and import existing filesystems into the new ESS cluster? > > Prasad Surampudi > Sr. Systems Engineer > The ATS Group > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at *spectrumscale.org* <http://spectrumscale.org> > *http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss > <http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss>* > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at *spectrumscale.org* <http://spectrumscale.org> > *http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss > <http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss>* > > Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number > 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU > > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org > http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org > http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss > > > Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number > 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU > > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org > http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org > http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss > > > Unless stated otherwise above: > IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number > 741598. > Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU > > _______________________________________________ > gpfsug-discuss mailing list > gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org > http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss >
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