On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Anil Tharayath Varghese
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear friends
>
> whenever i have been reading the reports on night vigil especially by
> Kairali Im always reminded of this quote (forgot who wrote it) "the
> camera is the penis" in this whole episode of the reporting process.
> Ive always felt that Kairali and Cpi(m) assumes this luxury of
> watching or taking films of the support groups in the logic of taking
> up a pornographic movie where all the actors inside the frames are to
> be "sex workers" and I find the crew (irrespective of wo/ men) feels
> some sort of a masturbation effect. I very feel strongly that this
> "yukthi"/ logic simply comes out that these saamskaarika extras are
> supporting a Dalit struggle. This reductionist logic is very much to
> be scrutinised in my opinion.
Getting pleasure while shooting the movie, whether masturbatory or
other, cannot be prevented. Getting pleasure while writing, reading,
doing activism also cannot be prevented. Do we need to scrutinise and
decide what feeling people get when they engage in activism, shooting
films, writing mails like this, praying or even breast feeding. Why
are we always against pleasure? I remeber Tom Of Finland, one of the
prominent artists of the century writing 'I dont consider drawings
which does not give me an erection as art'.
I think the problem of CPI(M), and the Samskarika nayika nayakar in
Kerala is that they deny pleasure. They are against pleasure.
Let us not compare pornography to this. Pornography can be of high
quality, without labor exploitation, and can be done in a very decent
way. And the actors in pornography are not necessarily sex workers,
they are actors. But what Sakshi and Kairali does is a one sided
thing, they donot seek permission or consent. Also the product,
whether it gives pleasure to the men in kairali channel, is at the
coast of other people's privacy. Let us not equate this to
pornography. This is media terrorism. Pornography deserved better
analysis and understanding.
>
> Agree to the positions by ranju, dileep and sanjeev
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 9, 9:07 pm, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > break the hegemony of novels(classic) that looks/portray only the wanted
> > 'Heroes/heroines"
> > make our own novels by constructing our own "Heroes/heroines" (may be
> > unwanted for those classic lovers)
> > let "sakshis" clamour "morality" morality"
> > let their own "morality" question the call for "morality"
> >
> > let them talk/live in those "classic" times
> > it s de dawn of new novels (novel experiences)
> > let us feel it
> > let us be part of it
> >
> > chodikkanum parayanum alulla veedukalil ninnum purathu varanulla
> > samayamanith
> > saskhikal adachitta veetukalil ninnum purathu kadakkuka
> > aa veedukalil ninnulla adhikarathinte ashanipatamettanu nandigramum
> > muthangayum chengarayum nilavilikkunnathu
> >
> > it s de worst TV progrm i ve ever seen/
> > nammal malayalikalude kshama sammathikkanam
> > ninakkonnum chodikkanum parayanum arumille ennu sakshiyodaru chodikkum?
> >
>
> > On 4/9/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Art Samaram and Popular Samaram
> >
> > > As in films, so in activism. " It is the form that is God all else,
> > > including even the most arrogant, can only be His instrument.S/he who
> breaks
> > > these laws will end up as an "art" film maker , forever banished from the
> > > community of popular films. " (D R Nagaraj, " The Comic Collapse of
> > > Authority")
> >
> > > He says, transgression is an essential component of popular cinema. To
> > > quote him again,
> > > "Songs and dance are the logical expression of a different notion of
> > > morality: They are the ultimate expression of transgression".
> >
> > > Sanjeev, that's a brilliant coinage.. We are not Samskarika Nayakanmar
> but
> > > Samskarika extras. We are no more playing second fiddle to 'art"
> heroes. {
> > > Niankkonnum Veettil Chodikkanum Parayanum AArumille? question repeated
> > > inSakshi as in that film!!.. Illedo...
> > > njangal chorus pani nirthi!! nayakanmarkku vedi ozhiyanum bhavamilla..
> > > Swantham script, swantham production...}
> >
> > > Can we joke at this time?
> >
> > > To rely one last time on Nagaraj,
> >
> > > "The comic vision is also employed to laugh at the self righteous belief
> > > in the correctness of one's ideas."
> >
> > > Let us commence a discussion on the emergence of new genres in Politics?
> > > Sunil P Elayidanmar Novelinte aavirbhavatheppatti ippozhum parayunnu!!
> > > varoo ee theruvukalile novel forms of life nad novel life styles
> kanooo...
> >
>
>
> > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:04 PM, S sanjeev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Some of us have been running to full houses in CPI (M) television
> > > > network's
> > > > "saakshi" for the past six weeks.
> >
> > > > This, avid media watchers would definitely agree, is a feat not even
> > > > K.karunakaran or M.M Hassan could achieve.
> >
> > > > Does this signify the emergence of "extra" actors ? (If so it might
> > > > invert
> > > > the fashionable proposition put forward by - again, some of us - "any
> > > > publicity is good publicity".)
> >
> > > > Of course the "extras" are totally disappointed with the roles
> > > > assigned to
> > > > them.
> >
> > > > I'm sure, had the producers asked, none of us would have accepted
> > > > those
> > > > stale and stereotypical roles - anarchist, Maoist, smoking woman, sex
> > > > freedom fighter...
> >
> > > > Anyway, it is evident that this film was "made" as part of a grand
> > > > project to topple something that is neither film, nor reality
> television,
> > > > but a poignant
> > > > subversion called "chengara"- an amazing insurrection of little selves
> > > > that
> > > > refuses to accept or tolerate hegemonic scripts, producers and
> > > > directors.
> >
> > > > They don't give a damn about such representations, obviously.
> >
> > > > But does that mean the "extra" actors should quit performing?
> >
> > > > Does that mean the "extra" actors should stop looking for better
> > > > scripts and
> > > > roles?
> >
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>
> > > Dileep R I thuravoor
> >
>
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