dear maya, since i feel "god" and "purogamanam" are being discussed here as absolute/fixed categories i'd suggest we look at persepectives such as kancha illaiah's. In why i am not a hindu he illustrates how the brahmanical gods and dalitbahujan gods are entirely different in all "divine" aspects(including misogyny).
--- On Sat, 31/1/09, Maya <[email protected]> wrote: From: Maya <[email protected]> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 31 January, 2009, 8:45 PM Sreenivas, I dont understand the simile between the teapot and god. And its not clear for me what people think of 'believing in god' either, from the discussions. And I was not calling anyone purogamannakkar sanjeev. I was wondering here about a topic 'purogamanam and belief in God' . Belief in God doesnt necessarily mean belief in Religion, and vice versa. ( i dont know if its a topic for people here; but it is a debatable one in my mind, Especially because these terms are very much misogynistc in their meanings ). May be these terms are to be discussed and defined as they are in very common usage still. May be when the discussion makes people fed up, could be taken as a joke finally! maya "Does feminist mean large unpleasant person who'll shout at you or someone who believes women are human beings. To me it's the latter, so I sign up." By: Margaret Atwood On 1/31/09, sreenivas v.p <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Maya , The discussion about god itself is meaningless and a waste of time . let us discuss about something that is real and existing . Can i imagine that there is a teapot revolving around the earth and immediately start thinking whether it exists or not? God is also like that . we have created something in our imagination and and then worrying about that . and real athiests do not respect other's religion also because he /she knows that religion is stupidity . so if u r an athiest (i dont know) , u dont have to respect the religious feelings of anybody . --- On Fri, 30/1/09, Maya <[email protected]> wrote: From: Maya <[email protected]> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 30 January, 2009, 11:45 PM Dear Sanjeev, I dont understand why you take it as a brutal accusation ! I never meant to do so. I mean, I dont mean to accuse anyone while trying to bring out a creative discussion on the topic 'God' and 'Belief in God'. I dont mind anyone being a believer; you or Anil and Salim who responded here. And I dont think 'believing in God' is a thing to be accused. Its true that I was not jocking.( though in this group there is a practice of jocking, teasing, accusing etc., instead of discussing) But I was not meaning to insult anyone`s belief too. But I definitely think ' belief in God' is a topic that could be debated in this forum. Because all in this group are progressive thinkers in one way I hope. Ya, may be there is no need to have that label as well. Or it should be in some other way it has to be addressed. I don`t know. But I have been engaged with such debates and am still interested to know how people think about 'God' in the modern-postmodern era (or just the present post marxist era or whatever). Such anxieties happened to be posed with reference of your email, that`s all. The poem is meaningful . God has no issues of survival may be. So no need to worry about taking a PhD ( which itself is a meaningless idea). thanks On 1/30/09, S sanjeev <[email protected]> wrote: dear maya, being called "purogamanakaran" is beyond the limits of my endurance. hence the following blasphemy. hope this would suffice and you'd withdraw your brutal accusation:-) Why God never got a PhD S/He had only one major publication. It was written in Aramaic, not in English. It has no references and footnotes. It wasn't even published in a refereed journal. There are serious doubts s/he wrote it her/himself. The Scientific community has had a hard time replicating her/his results. When subjects didn't behave as predicted, s/he deleted them from the sample. S/He rarely came to class, just told her/his students to read the book. Some say s/he had her/his son to teach the class. S/He expelled her/his first two students for learning. Although there were only 10 requirements, most of her/his students failed her/his tests. ***************************************************************************************** --- On Fri, 30/1/09, Maya <[email protected]> wrote: From: Maya <[email protected]> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 30 January, 2009, 2:49 PM purogamanakkarkku eesvara visvasikalavan kazhiyumo ! I doubt generally. ( not targetting you now, sanjeev. As a topic that could be discussed) I hope some blasphemy atleast- On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:04 PM, S sanjeev <[email protected]> wrote: as u wish maya! i have no plans to be blasphemous:-) --- On Fri, 30/1/09, Maya <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Maya <[email protected]> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, 30 January, 2009, 11:45 AM > Why?! Then I will not survive. Survival is also not > necessary . > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, S sanjeev > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > to survive in greenyouth you have to be a believer > dear maya:-) > > > > --- On *Thu, 29/1/09, Maya > <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > > From: Maya <[email protected]> > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thursday, 29 January, 2009, 1:56 PM > > > > U seem to be very much a theist ! Why do you assign > mystery to God?! What > > about some atheism?! > > > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:44 PM, S sanjeev > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> see, god's ways are indeed mysterious:-) > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 27/1/09, Praveen A > <[email protected]>* wrote: > >> > >> From: Praveen A <[email protected]> > >> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH > >> To: [email protected] > >> Date: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 9:02 AM > >> > >> > >> 2009/1/25 S sanjeev <[email protected]>: > >> > a friend sent it. > >> > the text,"it seems": > >> > niraparadhikalaaya father pithrukayil, father > kottoor, sister sefi, > >> > >> > pinarayi vijayan ennivare anyaayamaayi > pedippikkunna CBI neethi > >> paalikkuka! > >> > (pakal maanya samithi) > >> > >> I heard it was reported in Asianet as support for > Pinarayi !! > >> > >> - Praveen > >> -- > >> > >> പ്രവീണ് > >> > അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് > >> <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone > call! > >> <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are > unable to speak? > >> (as seen on /.) > >> Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! > >> http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Maya S. > > http://cogito-maya.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Maya S. > http://cogito-maya.blogspot.com/ > > -- Maya S. 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