round robin? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:06 PM, salimtk <[email protected]> wrote:
> pl. dont take them even as semi-finals. > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Maya <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I havnt put them as homogeneous. Ono-homogeneous things also could have >> some relation I think, thats why i tried to put them together. >> >> And interesting are the long quotes,though I dont think they can be taken >> as final. but I dont want to pull the counter arguments and drag the >> discussion. >> >> Thanks. >> maya >> >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:21 PM, S sanjeev <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> i'm stating my point once again. >>> why view "God"(G in upper case as usual) and "purogamanam" (if any)as >>> homogenous entitities? >>> >>> --- On *Mon, 2/2/09, Maya <[email protected]>* wrote: >>> >>> From: Maya <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 11:28 AM >>> >>> I have gone through 'why I`m not a Hindu' and Why I`m not a christian >>> ( Bernad sha I remember) many years back. Not just because of going through >>> books, or believing in traditional theories that we have to become atheists >>> or agnostics.( The theories made by others are not believed, but are just >>> for the sake of reference or use in arguments) It wuld be basically of one`s >>> own thought. Ya, it would be gradually deconstructing as well. >>> >>> Many of the people ( may in any realm including marxist) fear to talk >>> about God and criticize! Why people fear God? Related to that Why people >>> fear Religion? The topic of God in relation to Religion (at least) should be >>> thought about, as it is out of such topics nowadays we have sects in the >>> society which make communalism and related type of violence.May be there are >>> things that are out of human`s control. May be there is a supernatural/ >>> superhuman force. But why people should personify that and worship and fear! >>> I dont think it is necessary. And of course, it is a block for puroganamna >>> chinta ( if there is anything called in that way). >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:05 AM, S sanjeev <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> dear maya, >>>> since i feel "god" and "purogamanam" are being discussed here as >>>> absolute/fixed categories i'd suggest we look at persepectives such as >>>> kancha illaiah's. >>>> In *why i am not a hindu *he illustrates how the brahmanical gods and >>>> dalitbahujan gods are entirely different in all "divine" aspects(including >>>> misogyny). >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On *Sat, 31/1/09, Maya <[email protected]>* wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Maya <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Date: Saturday, 31 January, 2009, 8:45 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> Sreenivas, I dont understand the simile between the teapot and god. >>>> >>>> And its not clear for me what people think of 'believing in god' >>>> either, from the discussions. >>>> >>>> And I was not calling anyone purogamannakkar sanjeev. I was wondering >>>> here about a topic 'purogamanam and belief in God' . Belief in God doesnt >>>> necessarily mean belief in Religion, and vice versa. ( i dont know if its a >>>> topic for people here; but it is a debatable one in my mind, Especially >>>> because these terms are very much misogynistc in their meanings ). May >>>> be these terms are to be discussed and defined as they are in very common >>>> usage still. May be when the discussion makes people fed up, could be >>>> taken >>>> as a joke finally! >>>> >>>> maya >>>> >>>> >>>> "Does feminist mean large unpleasant person who'll shout at you or >>>> someone who believes women are human beings. To me it's the latter, so I >>>> sign up." >>>> By: Margaret Atwood >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/31/09, sreenivas v.p <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Maya , >>>>> >>>>> The discussion about god itself is meaningless and a waste of time . >>>>> let us discuss about something that is real and existing . Can i imagine >>>>> that there is a teapot revolving around the earth and immediately start >>>>> thinking whether it exists or not? God is also like that . >>>>> we have created something in our imagination and and then worrying >>>>> about that . >>>>> and real athiests do not respect other's religion also because he /she >>>>> knows that religion is stupidity . so if u r an athiest (i dont know) , u >>>>> dont have to respect the religious feelings of anybody . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On *Fri, 30/1/09, Maya <[email protected]>* wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Maya <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Date: Friday, 30 January, 2009, 11:45 PM >>>>> >>>>> Dear Sanjeev, >>>>> >>>>> I dont understand why you take it as a brutal accusation ! I never >>>>> meant to do so. I mean, I dont mean to accuse anyone while trying to bring >>>>> out a creative discussion on the topic 'God' and 'Belief in God'. >>>>> I dont mind anyone being a believer; you or Anil and Salim who >>>>> responded here. And I dont think 'believing in God' is a thing to be >>>>> accused. >>>>> Its true that I was not jocking.( though in this group there is a >>>>> practice of jocking, teasing, accusing etc., instead of discussing) But I >>>>> was not meaning to insult anyone`s belief too. >>>>> But I definitely think ' belief in God' is a topic that could be >>>>> debated in this forum. Because all in this group are progressive thinkers >>>>> in >>>>> one way I hope. Ya, may be there is no need to have that label as well. Or >>>>> it should be in some other way it has to be addressed. I don`t know. But I >>>>> have been engaged with such debates and am still interested to know how >>>>> people think about 'God' in the modern-postmodern era (or just the present >>>>> post marxist era or whatever). >>>>> Such anxieties happened to be posed with reference of your email, >>>>> that`s all. >>>>> The poem is meaningful . God has no issues of survival may be. So no >>>>> need to worry about taking a PhD ( which itself is a meaningless idea). >>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1/30/09, S sanjeev <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> dear maya, >>>>>> being called "purogamanakaran" is beyond the limits of my endurance. >>>>>> hence the following blasphemy. >>>>>> hope this would suffice and you'd withdraw your brutal accusation:-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Why God never got a PhD >>>>>> >>>>>> * >>>>>> >>>>>> S/He had only one major publication. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It was written in Aramaic, not in English. >>>>>> >>>>>> It has no references and footnotes. >>>>>> >>>>>> It wasn't even published in a refereed journal. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There are serious doubts s/he wrote it her/himself. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Scientific community has had a hard time replicating her/his >>>>>> results. >>>>>> >>>>>> When subjects didn't behave as predicted, s/he deleted them from >>>>>> the sample. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> S/He rarely came to class, just told her/his students to read the >>>>>> book. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some say s/he had her/his son to teach the class. >>>>>> >>>>>> S/He expelled her/his first two students for learning. >>>>>> >>>>>> Although there were only 10 requirements, most of her/his students >>>>>> failed her/his tests. >>>>>> >>>>>> ***************************************************************************************** >>>>>> >>>>>> --- On *Fri, 30/1/09, Maya <[email protected]>* wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Maya <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Date: Friday, 30 January, 2009, 2:49 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> purogamanakkarkku eesvara visvasikalavan kazhiyumo ! I doubt >>>>>> generally. ( not targetting you now, sanjeev. As a topic that could be >>>>>> discussed) I hope some blasphemy atleast- >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:04 PM, S sanjeev <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> as u wish maya! >>>>>>> i have no plans to be blasphemous:-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On Fri, 30/1/09, Maya <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > From: Maya <[email protected]> >>>>>>> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH >>>>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > Date: Friday, 30 January, 2009, 11:45 AM >>>>>>> > Why?! Then I will not survive. Survival is also not >>>>>>> > necessary . >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, S sanjeev >>>>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > to survive in greenyouth you have to be a believer >>>>>>> > dear maya:-) >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > --- On *Thu, 29/1/09, Maya >>>>>>> > <[email protected]>* wrote: >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > From: Maya <[email protected]> >>>>>>> > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH >>>>>>> > > To: [email protected] >>>>>>> > > Date: Thursday, 29 January, 2009, 1:56 PM >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > U seem to be very much a theist ! Why do you assign >>>>>>> > mystery to God?! What >>>>>>> > > about some atheism?! >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:44 PM, S sanjeev >>>>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > >> see, god's ways are indeed mysterious:-) >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> --- On *Tue, 27/1/09, Praveen A >>>>>>> > <[email protected]>* wrote: >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> From: Praveen A <[email protected]> >>>>>>> > >> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: CPM,CBI,CHURCH >>>>>>> > >> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> > >> Date: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 9:02 AM >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> 2009/1/25 S sanjeev <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> > >> > a friend sent it. >>>>>>> > >> > the text,"it seems": >>>>>>> > >> > niraparadhikalaaya father pithrukayil, father >>>>>>> > kottoor, sister sefi, >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> > pinarayi vijayan ennivare anyaayamaayi >>>>>>> > pedippikkunna CBI neethi >>>>>>> > >> paalikkuka! >>>>>>> > >> > (pakal maanya samithi) >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> I heard it was reported in Asianet as support for >>>>>>> > Pinarayi !! >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> - Praveen >>>>>>> > >> -- >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> പ്രവീണ് >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് >>>>>>> > >> <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone >>>>>>> > call! >>>>>>> > >> <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are >>>>>>> > unable to speak? >>>>>>> > >> (as seen on /.) >>>>>>> > >> Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! >>>>>>> > >> http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > -- >>>>>>> > > Maya S. >>>>>>> > > http://cogito-maya.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > Maya S. >>>>>>> > http://cogito-maya.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Maya S. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! 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