damodar when one side is led by "hope" and another by "hate" what is worng in my statement? pls enlighten me wht is sarcasm in it? i wrote it with pain, not with sarcasm as pracitsed by the so called visionaries of greeyouth
the post-modern approach to understand social realities have an inherent problm it s not a joke best On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:39 PM, damodar prasad <[email protected]>wrote: > renju, > As there is a genocide going on in Srilanka and when there is a mass exodus > of people, I don't how you use this thread to fire at postmodernists and > make cyncial comments on "hope" and "hate". > > I know I can't do anything. But atleast I can desist from making cyncial > comments and mock at people forced to exile from home, killed and maimed by > SL forces. > > rajpakshe explanations is that the civilian tamils the SL army killed are > actually LTTE un-uniformed. > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:15 PM, ranju radha <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> both "hope" and "hate" are four letter words >> and world politics is defined by the binary of these two >> are the post-modernists listening? >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:47 AM, devika Jayakumari <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear all >>> >>> I have many dear Sinhala friends in SL, and here is a message forwarded >>> to me by one of those. The moral crisis they are undergoing defies easy >>> description, leave alone easy solutions. Below is a message from a tamil >>> friend. >>> >>> Devika >>> >>> >>> Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: meerabharathy vks osho <[email protected]> >>> Date: Apr 22, 2009 12:58 AM >>> Subject: RE: Hello Tamil Diaspora, international community and everyone, >>> To: meerabharathy vks osho <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello Tamil Diaspora, international community and everyone, >>> >>> I have something to tell or discuss with you... >>> And just wanted to talk to everyone ... >>> I left the politics 10 years back in year 2000 and lost the trust in the >>> arm struggle which is a path of violence... >>> However, I couldn’t leave or deny my own feelings for freedom and fight >>> for rights inside me.... >>> That’s what I feel right now... >>> ,... >>> Because I am also somehow responsible for the situation now in sri lanka >>> specially north and east part where most of the Tamil speaking human beings >>> are living... >>> Because I born there and did nothing in the past to solve this conflict >>> and find a solution for the oppressed people by the government... >>> >>> First of all, sir Lankan government is the main responsible for the war >>> in that country, violence environment and also existence of LTTE in sri >>> lanka now, >>> Because since the independence of sri lanka in 1947 sri Lankan >>> government has been discriminating against Tamil speaking human being’s >>> rights in sri lanka specially north, east and upcountry where majority of >>> Tamils are living ...for example take away the citizen rights of the >>> upcountry Tamils...discriminating languages rights and violence against >>> Tamils by killing and destroying their home and wealth in sri Lankan. >>> However, Sri Lankan Government is not representing diversity of sri >>> Lankan people...instead they became Sinhala Buddhist government in 1970.... >>> Therefore, Tamils felt that they have to fight for their rights and >>> freedom... >>> So, in the beginning they fought through path of non violence and so >>> called parliament democratic politics...whenever sri Lankan party wants >>> Tamils votes they agree for a solution and signed agreements for the >>> conflicts...whenever these agreements become a problem for their power in >>> the government then >>> they will through away these agreements and broke their promises they >>> have given to Tamil people...and their leaders.. >>> Tamils have been lead and represented by different leaders since >>> independence of sri lanka...for example, Mr.selvanayagam...then >>> Mr.Amirthalingam...and so on...when all their non violence and parliamentary >>> politics failed to get a solution for the ethnic conflict and >>> Failed to save the Tamils from massacring and killing and their lands >>> which has been taking by deliberate and systematic Sinhala settlements by >>> sri Lankan government and their military. Tamil speaking human being were >>> living with fear and insecure in those days. >>> >>> So, it was natural that Young Tamils felt that they have to fight through >>> the arm struggle to have their freedom, rights and to save the people. As >>> the result Tamil people had more than 32 armed movements in 1983...however >>> there were five main major groups such as TELO, LTTE, PLOT, EROS, >>> EPRLF...also they formed and established in this order... >>> in the process LTTE became powerful by their military and violent actions >>> and it is the only movement doesn’t have any ideology of politics or >>> political agenda but just trust in the armed struggle with conservatries >>> ideas. However the movement is well control and disciplined by their >>> leaders. Eventually , they took total power over Tamil people and became >>> their political representative by killing, destroying and banned the other >>> groups such as TELO, PLOTE, EPRLF and...Prohibiting their rights to fight >>> for their people..... >>> And there were no chance for collation politics under LTTE rule to fight >>> for the rights and freedom. >>> Because of LTTE’s stupid action and attitude without any political goal >>> or agenda, >>> now Tamil people are desperate in Sri Lanka without any solution for the >>> ethnic conflict. >>> Only these people have the right to decide whether LTTE is their >>> representative or not, >>> but not for the Tamil Diasporas living saves and comfortable wherever >>> they live. >>> That’s why I never support the LTTE because they are not fighting for >>> people’s rights and freedom but their existence in based on demand for >>> people’s rights and freedom. >>> >>> However these each groups had their own flags for their movement, and >>> LTTE had this tiger flag...since they have conserverty ideologies and pure >>> nationalist movement it is not a surprise. they took this tiger symbol >>> from that region’s past history for example Tamil kings like >>> bandaravanian, and sangilian and important south Indian kings like Chero, >>> Chola, and pandiayars... these rulers used this tiger symbol as their flag. >>> These kings rule and dominated and exploited these Tamil speaking people >>> based on cast, gender, religion and class... so, it is not surprise that >>> LTTE is using this flag....and it’s belong to their group, LTTE only and it >>> is like other political parties have their own flags... >>> Since it is an angry tiger flag, it can represent our anger over the >>> oppressor... >>> or maybe our own animal heritage...attitude...who knows.... >>> >>> Therefore it is not Tamil speaking people’s flag and it is not >>> representing Tamil people and their nation...however, Tamil people are >>> fighting for their self determination right, and they haven’t think about >>> their flag...their flag should represent north and east people and their >>> wealth like palmer tree, fish, sea, and so on .... >>> >>> Anyhow I would like to divide LTTE in to three groups...first LTTE >>> leaders....then members who join with them to fight for their rights and >>> freedom because of Sri Lankan government’s oppression and discriminations... >>> and other members who have been joined by force. >>> So, my anger and disagreements are with the leaders not with their >>> members who had no choice other than fighting with them for their rights and >>> freedom... >>> so we have to care about these members like other Tamil people. >>> >>> My request for Tamil Diaspora in North America, Europe, and Australia... >>> >>> that this is the time for pressuring and demanding the government where >>> we live in a peace full way with meditative and with a good musical show >>> because this will not disturb international community and but attract them >>> and feel them to participate with you.. >>> in the same time, you can ask them to pressure sri Lankan government to >>> stop war and put forward a solution for the ethnic conflict... >>> Solution should be a federal solution as a minimum and it has an open >>> place to discuss for a two states solution.... >>> So, please put all your energy into these demands... >>> Stop war.... >>> We need a solution... >>> Federal solution... >>> Two states solutions... >>> Tomorrow there may be no LTTE but after all of these experiences, lost, >>> and sufferings, >>> Tamil people are there left without any rights and freedom and going to >>> live under sri Lankan army. >>> So Tamil Diaspora please feels responsible for what you are doing... >>> Just don’t act on your emotions...but act on your intelligent....and on >>> behalf of Tamil speaking people who are suffering and dying there with their >>> children each and every moment... >>> Only this will help Tamil people who are suffering in sri lanka specially >>> North and East... >>> >>> I also request international community please get involved in this >>> process to find a solution for this conflict... >>> Only the solution for this conflict will prevent future generation from >>> taking arms and involving violence again... >>> Take action as soon as possible before any human catastrophe happen in >>> that area....thank you >>> >>> >>> >>> with love >>> >>> meerabharathy >>> laughing...loving...living >>> meerabharathy.com >>> awakeningawareness.org >>> 647 505 6746 >>> "The only way to be connected with existence is to go inwards, >>> because there at the center you are still connected. >>> Your connection with the universe is of consciousness. >>> so you have to go deep down with great awareness, watchfulness, >>> witnessing, >>> and you will find the connection. >>> The buddha is the connection!" >>> -osho- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:21:24 -0700 >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Windows Live Messenger makes it easier to stay in touch – learn how! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or >>> anything. If you're a man, you take it." >>> - Malcolm X - >>> Malcolm X Speaks, 1965 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> " The so called caste-hindus are bitterly opposed to the depressed class >>> using a public tank not because they really believe that the water will be >>> thereby spoiled or will evaporate but because they are afraid of losing >>> their superiority of caste and of equality being established between the >>> former and the latter. We are resorting to this satyagraha not becasue we >>> believe that the water of this particular tank has any exceptional >>> qualities, but to establish our natural rights as citizens and human >>> beings." >>> >>> - Dr B.R. 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