Dear Viswanath, See, If Left and CPM in particualr wants to really do some serious introspection, then the trends and indications has quite no: of lessons for them to internalize and practice..
However, nothing like that is going to happen. Btw, many CPM people want non-CPMs to elaborate on the verdict so that they dont have to face the ire of top brass while things are being reported and argued from the "Other" side. Descedant Marxists may appear disguised as Pro-CPM and argue so that contrary arguments are placed vehmently. I dont think Viswanath nor me have no such interests to argue for anyside and mind that when CPM state commt. is discussing the verdict, it is better to listen to what CPM has to say on the verdict. *For so long, Left and CPM was always loacted on the one-side of the discussion.The arguments Pro/Anti/Non but was with the CPM. The Left and CPM reigned. The dialogues was with the CPM & Left.* ** *High time, we remove CPM from there. Why dont we dialogue with Congress?.. a party which has a better vision of future than the anachronistic views of Left (non-traditonal also included) dear viswanath, better to avoid a debate with CPM votaries. It is not going to help us nor them...* ** *damodar prasad* ** On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, C.K. Vishwanath < [email protected]> wrote: > > > -the left democratic politics of kerala led by CPIM has got a severe set > back.the switching of the character of kerala voter-this analysis won't give > much confidence to the CPIM.Even ashok mitra has written so(the > Telegraph).The real shock is from kannur and vadakara-The committed party > votes are no longer in the CPIM account. ,the active supporters of the > party are searching for new alternatives.this is really a challenging > scenario.from the days of 1940s,culcutta thesis,emergency,and other local > issues never affected the party vote bank of these areas.PARTY is total-this > is lost.the contradiction between party and people is sharpening.This impact > is so deep in the history of CPIM. > Just before the election,the cpim central committee member A.k. padmabhan > given an interview to world socialist web in which he said that the > administrative power which we got has no meaning at all.And this is not a > political power.The problem is that they are sill failing to give a good > governance to the people. > Even people's democratic path is far off.And socialism is very far off.He > underlined the comments of EMS in 1957.And globalisation process has cut off > the funds getting from the central govt. > there are many confusions-pragmatic electoral games,governance etc in the > political praxis of cpim. > > --- On Sun, 24/5/09, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Vaikom Viswan and Little Bo-Peep > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Sunday, 24 May, 2009, 9:39 PM > > Mr. D. Prasad, > > > > You taking out just a > > figure from the article of Vaikom Viswan and defining it. > > As you said, a small swing can change the victory to one > > side and that is what happened here. > > > > > > Of course, there > > was erosion in CPI-M vote base (internal problems > > and divisions are the problem) and some LDF > > partners also vote against them to an extend. > > > > > > > > A large scale voters > > from BJP did vote for Congress > > (comparing with last > > time it is above 6 % - but that calculation is not right > > because last time, BJP got more percentage due to personal > > votes of Rajagopal and PC thomas of IFDP - Anyway we can > > say approximately they lost between 4-5 % votes). > > > > > > > > Actually PDP do not > > have much vote share - now their vote bank is actually with > > NDF and NDF supported UDF. > > present NDF cadres are > > once PDP/ISS workers. > > > > A section of people did > > not vote for LDF due to different reasons (They did not > > beleive in Third front, They didn't like Adwani and > > Modi and for them Dr.Manmohan was a better choice) > > > > > > > > Minorities (A section of > > muslims and christians) worked against LDF > > > > > > But even after all these > > problems worked against CPI-M (LDF), if there is only 2 > > lacks vote they lost from last time, sure, CPI-M still > > remains STRONG. > > > > regards > > > > Rasheed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 6:44 PM, > > damodar prasad <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > If any one has missed reading this Devika's witty > > and sharp take on people's verdict for the 2009 LS > > elections, pls. follow the link: > > http://kafila.org/2009/05/19/vaikom-viswan-and-little-bo-peep/#more-2607 > > > > a precise excerpt from this is as follows: > > > > The CPM leadership doesn’t > > seemed to have learned anything from this thrashing, though. > > The LDF convenor, Vaikom Viswan, observes that the CPM’s > > share of the votes have reduced only by 2,28,638 and > > therefore its mass base remains intact. Well, we would like > > to remind him that there is little consolation to be drawn > > from this. It is a well-known fact that the LDF and the UDF > > are more or less equally matched and a small swing can alter > > the balance. This time the swing was certainly not small, > > compared with earlier elections, which is something the > > leaders of the CPM have admitted.And besides, the erosion of > > support was most evident in CPM’s core areas of strength; > > therefore it is not as if the non-political strata decided > > to vote UDF. Voters in core areas usually are loyal, while > > the support received in non-core areas may be driven by > > other, more local calculations. This is evident to the most > > ordinary voter but Vaikom Viswan and his peers are so used > > to thinking that the rest of us Malayalees are morons — > > and hence continues dish out such weak argument. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with Yahoo! 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