Hello,

I'd just suggest a small modification in the "main.tex" (or other, I don't
know what's its name on gregobase) : as you can see
here<http://gregobase.selapa.net/chant.php?id=2060>,
in some cases, the notes get out of the lines. It can be easily avoided by
increasing *tolerance*, at the cost of greater spaces and more lines : for
example (in the preamble) :
*\tolerance=9999* %(or less)
*\pretolerance=500*.

Fr. Jacques Peron +



2013/5/28 Olivier Berten <[email protected]>

> This is possible only if the gabc has all accents and "j" and "æ" but
> it wouldn't work the other way around without dictionary. And I don't
> know how it works with the œ/æ... Are all "œ" becoming "æ" in later
> orthography?
>
> Olivier
>
> 2013/5/28 Brother Gabriel-Marie <[email protected]>:
> > Hmmm...  since the site is coded in php, perhaps, when you choose the
> gabc
> > files you want, you could have a set of radio-button choices that could
> > apply a certain "style" to the files you download.  php could just run a
> > check on the files and apply the stylistic changes.
> >
> > Then there would not be any need for duplicates, nor the worry of
> managing
> > them, nor the worry of the naming scheme.
> >
> > Just an idea.
> >
> >
> > On 5/22/2013 1:22 PM, Olivier Berten wrote:
> >>
> >> We might want to ask ourself what's the aim of that database. I
> >> thought of it as an editorial tool, not a musicological one. The final
> >> aim is to help people making booklets. Therefore some consistency in
> >> the orthography is useful. When you make a chant booklet, it would
> >> make sense to have the same rules through the whole booklet. Having a
> >> i or j won't make any difference in the way of singing or saying it.
> >> That's why I currently consider it's the same piece if the music is
> >> the same (including rhythmic signs) and the words are the same
> >> (whatever orthography).
> >>
> >> Do you think this, for instance, should be split into 3 different
> >> entries? http://test.selapa.net/gregobase/chant.php?id=2980
> >>
> >> Olivier
> >>
> >> 2013/5/22 pierre <[email protected]>:
> >>>
> >>> Mmm, I am sorry to disagree with many of us.
> >>> The gabc database should not be a standard of what is "good" gregorian
> >>> score.
> >>> It is not to "us" to decide if we must use i or j, or mass  of PAul VI
> or
> >>> older one. We should remain open. "We" are a tool. Only.
> >>> It seems to me that the only possible way is to have a gabc database as
> >>> near
> >>> as possible of each original book.
> >>> If there are many different versions of one hymn in different books, we
> >>> must
> >>> have the correspondant entries  possible in the DB.
> >>> The fact that the entry is filled is another question. It will be
> filled
> >>> if
> >>> someone fills it. But the DB should remain open.
> >>> This could lead to a standard "de facto", if some entries are filled
> and
> >>> other ones are not...
> >>> But that should not be "by design".
> >>> The reference to the original book seems enough to recognize various
> >>> variants.
> >>> And I see no problem if gabc data is more or less duplicated...
> >>>
> >>> Le 22/05/2013 16:58, Olivier Berten a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> Well... I'm actually wondering myself... because I like to be as close
> >>>> as possible as the source but it doesn't really make sense to me to
> >>>> have different entries for the Graduale and the Liber versions. One
> >>>> could argue that we should use some standardised latin (same with the
> >>>> oe/ae/œ/æ or i/j question).
> >>>>
> >>>> But on the other hand the Liber gives a lot of information for people
> >>>> less litterate in that topic which could be useful aswell: accents for
> >>>> the people less used to the tonic accent placement in latin or noted
> >>>> psalms for people less used to psalmody...
> >>>>
> >>>> I also wonder how to deal with the hymns with one different verse for
> >>>> different occasions, or which are a port of another hymn...
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd love to have other peoples opinions
> >>>>
> >>>> 2013/5/22 Jacques Peron <[email protected]>:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd have a question about the rules to be followed on your database.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are differences between editions of gregorian chants :
> >>>> - the Graduale puts accents on words only when they have 3 or more
> >>>> syllabes,
> >>>> while the Liber usualis and others put accents on all accented words ;
> >>>> - liturgical books use i in place of j after 1962, but not before ;
> >>>> - æ is often written ae, I think because they had no easy mean to do
> >>>> otherwise (but I can't be affirmative).
> >>>>
> >>>> So here is my question : is it better to follow the presentation of
> the
> >>>> source in every case (but some chants can be different between
> different
> >>>> sources), or to follow uniform rules ? In such a case, would it be
> >>>> possible
> >>>> to give those rules, for example on the Participate page ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Please forgive me if I made English mistakes,
> >>>>
> >>>> Fr. Jacques Peron.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2013/3/24 Olivier Berten <[email protected]>
> >>>> Hi!
> >>>>
> >>>> Little by little, I'm getting further in my gregorian database system.
> >>>> There is now an editing interface. It's not very user-friendly yet but
> >>>> my knowledge in gui conception and programming is very weak... So if
> >>>> you want to help, I'm very open to it!
> >>>>
> >>>> You can also just proofread the scores and check the little "Me"
> >>>> button under "Proofread by" (if you don't see any mistakes, of
> >>>> course).
> >>>>
> >>>> For those interested, I published the source code on GitHub
> >>>> <https://github.com/olivierberten/GregoBase>. It's a mess... but if
> >>>> you're very brave, you can have a look at it ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Olivier
> >>>>
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