Every time I started to type this email, I found myself not being able
to complete it, so I stepped away. I think you aren't reading what I'm
saying how I'm thinking it in my head, so I'm going to reiterate it in
a different manner. After this, this thread needs to die. If you are
confused, reread this. I will be as clear here as I am ever going to
be.

When I thought about what kind of user you are to our community. I
came to the conclusion that you are verging on being a poisonous
person. Please see
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4216011961522818645# if you
have not seen it already, it's an excellent talk about the type of
person I think you are verging on becoming.

The reason I say this is due to a pattern in responses which have no
value, other than to be annoying. Here is a small list I found by just
searching for about 3 minutes, I stopped looking once I hit 4 emails:

http://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss/msg/a19a2ff6a84ebdd8
http://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss/msg/872c304048d33e0a
http://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss/msg/74b285e15eb9ebf2
http://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss/msg/be17f47730a0cc5f

Some common themes here are:

- Lack of useful responses
- Sarcasm verging on starting a heated discussion on a thread
- Short responses

This all said, you do provide some great feedback.When I found you
provided the best feedback it was about your specific problems though.

You responded to this user first. The user does not have a way to
differentiate who represents the project, and who is merely a member
of this mailing list/discussion group. As such, you represented this
entire group. You did so in a very sarcastic manner, with none of the
following:

- No quality control.
- No useful information to help the end user
- No helping at all


All of this to what end? No good one as far as I'm concerned. So no, I
do not believe you were wishing him a Merry Christmas. I know you were
in fact being a prick. Which is why I'm angry at you. You basically
just gave us a worse name to this user than we already had to him.
Which isn't a good place for us to be in, seeing how this can all be
avoided very easily.

Now, instead, you could have taken these actions, and not come across
as someone who is simply out to make himself feel good for 2 seconds
for a childish act:

- Responded with the link to the article about this issue
- Responded saying you understand, and providing details about how
dropbox is actually doing this, and then how to remove Growl
- Not responded at all

These 3 responses at the very least would have been more beneficial
than the response you chose to make.

Since you decided to send your sarcastic email to the list publicly, I
decided to reprimand you publicly. I will reiterate what I said
earlier. Do not respond to end users in this manner. They do not
deserve to be treated like this. We don't either, but their anger is
just, only not justly directed. You however have no right to be angry
about it, since it is not affecting you at all.

I spent more time today thinking about this one thing than anything
else. I have a six month old son who is better behaved than you are on
this list. I'm not going to sit here and baby sit you, you need to be
an adult here. I also want this thread to end, unless the original
poster requires more assistance. However, since this thread was
derailed, I've already started a direct email with him so he doesn't
have to continue to deal with this.

I have concluded that this is not acceptable behavior to tolerate for
these issues. If you respond to another user in a sarcastic manner
such as this, I will ban you. If you continue to make me have to
respond to you after being very clear in this email, I will also ban
you. If you choose to email me or any other member of the Growl
project directly to complain about this, I will ban you. Basically,
drop the issue, move on, and don't be a prick in the future, and we're
all set.

As far as I'm concerned, this should not have been how this user was
handled. You made us look bad. You need to own up to that, and learn
from it. I don't want to think about it anymore.

Chris

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Nicholas Sanders <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not quite, I'm afraid - I still want to see something that is neither
> offensive nor threatening from Chris. It is all very well for you to
> respond, but it is not you who has abused me unreasonably and wholly
> unnecessarily - try as I might, I cannot see this as a trivial matter.
>
> On 18 Oct 2010, at 19:13, Peter Hosey wrote:
>
> Anyway, you've apologized for it, so as long as you don't send something
> like that again (and the same goes for everybody else here, of course),
> problem solved.
>
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