On 7 Jan 2012, at 15:08, smajor <[email protected]> wrote:

> Firstly, I'm not one of the devs. I'm like you - a long time user.

And I am...

> 
> In order for Growl to be in the App Store, the devs had to make may of the 
> changes you're not happy with.  Apple is very picky about what can and cannot 
> go into the App Store. 

So, why put it in the App Store at all?  Why change the tried and tested Prefs 
Pane which all(?) users understood?

Also, moving to being an app is one of the key things the API broke on.

> Preference Panes aren't allowed nor are mail bundles - which is why I assume 
> GrowlMail is likely a separate download now and, you'll note, not available 
> via the App Store.
> 
> Frankly, I'm amazed Apple even allows Growl (and Hardware Growler) to be 
> there as an application that has a faceless mode (no menubar or dock icon) - 
> it'd make much more sense to allow Pref Panes!

Sadly, if Apple had blocked Growl, it'd have probably been a Good Thing as it 
turns out.

> 
> 1.3.x has it's quirks, but each update fixes tons of issues. 

Please define "tons".  1.3.2 added two new displays which broke Growl when run 
on case-sensitive filesystems.

> I bet 1.3.3 will be even better.  I do miss access to the beta, or rather the 
> way that the "old" version had a page to download it if you knew where to 
> look. 

This, in my opinion, is where the devs completely dropped the ball.  Even if 
all the move to application in App Store really was necessary, a build up to it 
via the website would have been very helpful - especially an FAQ, Knowledge 
Base or at least a "don't install if you are running apps x, y and z" warning.

> While messy and unorganized in terms of bug reports, I bet that "beta access" 
> caught many bugs before a release that most users saw.

Its admirable that you want to support the devs but I spent a number of unpaid 
weekends trying to get 1.3.1 working before eventually rolling it off 50 
machines and putting 1.2.2 back  - during which time putting up with the abuse 
and heckling from my users.

I guess that'll teach me to use "free" software then?  Oh, hang on, 1.3.x is 
the paid for version isn't it? :)
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