On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Alice <[email protected]> wrote:

> GMail and Mac Mail are used by so many people, it seems ridiculous that
> Growl wouldn't have them as options. I also believe.
>
> The sliding thing makes no sense; the notifications would drop into the
> place where the previous notification was, and any new ones would appear
> after the notification that was sliding. Anyone who's trying to read a text
> box in the split second when it drops down after they, themselves, clicked
> to delete it, is, I doubt, the majority of users.
>

We have to consider all of our users. Including those with vision problems.
We've tried this in the past, it did not test well at all and we moved on.


> Having to click an individual X for dozens of boxes seems like a much
> greater user issue.
>

Option+click to close multiple notification windows. :)


> I changed the notifications to only display for a brief time, but the
> maximum is 10 seconds. 10. You could literally make it any time and Growl
> chooses to limit it to 10.
>

People who want it for longer typically choose the "stay on screen" option.
Which will stay on the screen until you click to acknowledge. Does that do
what you want?


>
> Additionally, there is no option or preference that let you select just
> the inbox.
>

I'll take a look when I get back to a mac, but that seems to be the
suggestion that works for everyone else. If I don't see it I'm going to be
referring you to the GrowlMail list.


>
> Every time I think about this application I grow even more annoyed that I
> paid for it. "People have liked it, this is YOUR problem"
>

That's not what I said. I said that you have different expectations than
others who do like Growl. I didn't say it was your problem. You mistook
what I said. I'm entirely not trying to put the blame on you so please
don't take it that way at all. All I'm saying is that some people just
don't like Growl, and that's OK. Usually I want to find out why (you're
helping out there a lot) to try to either fix it or at least explain
situations where we've tried these things and it didn't appeal to our users
(like the moving notifications).


> is a ridiculous response to the fact that Growl doesn't work well (at all,
> technically, since you need to get GrowlMail, a separate entity's plugin)
> with one of the most popular mail clients, GMail, or with the mail program
> that comes on all Macs.
>
>
It's not ridiculous at all. Your expectations differ from reality here. We
cannot change how this works without us breaking into the offices at
Cupertino, rewriting the rules, rewriting Mail.app. So we just can't change
this.


> Obviously Growl CAN work with GMail since Growlmail exists.
>
>
> On Friday, September 6, 2013 3:23:20 PM UTC-4, Christopher Forsythe wrote:
>>
>>  We tried the sliding thing and it was found not to be a good thing since
>> people were reading the next notification by then and then the text sliding
>> caused usability issues.
>>
>> Try the checkbox in GrowlMail to limit to just the inbox. I think it has
>> that. If not hit up the GrowlMail list.
>>
>> Lots of people like Growl and have liked it for a decade. You came into
>> this with expectations that are different than the other people. That's
>> just how it is. So either your expectations change to what the actual
>> reality is or you just don't like it. Either way Growl's not likely to
>> change. Growl itself sits and waits for notifications from other
>> applications. A large list of applications support Growl, it just so
>> happens that the things you want to work with Growl are the hardest things
>> to make work with Growl. We can't walk into the offices at Cupertino and
>> say "hey, support Growl!" and we would not have been able to ever, that's
>> just not reality.
>>
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>> Chris Forsythe
>> @The_Tick <http://twitter.com/The_Tick>
>>
>> On Friday, September 6, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Alice wrote:
>>
>> Incoming email notifications are now repeating 3-4 times.
>>
>> On Friday, September 6, 2013 11:45:09 AM UTC-4, Alice wrote:
>>
>> Additionally, when I X out a notification, they don't drop down to fill
>> the place of the removed notification. So instead of clicking the same spot
>> to close them (like Mac's default notifications) I have to go up the side
>> of the screen and click each X.
>>
>> Where does this program get its good reviews? Why do people recommend it?
>> It's truly awful.
>>
>> On Friday, September 6, 2013 11:44:01 AM UTC-4, Alice wrote:
>>
>>  So I downloaded Growlmail. I sent myself a test email and got five popup
>> notifications. This is ridiculous! :(
>>
>> Had it running for a bit. Emails sent to myself populate 2-5 times,
>> emails from other people 1-2 times. T-T
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:57:06 AM UTC-4, Christopher Forsythe
>> wrote:
>>
>>  For google chat I don't know of a way to have it talk to Growl via the
>> website. I tend to use chat via either Messages or Adium and we have
>> solutions for both of these.
>>
>> Unfortunately what you're wanting are the things that are more
>> complicated. Most things just work, with the exceptions of Apple
>> applications and websites.
>>
>> --
>> Chris Forsythe
>> @The_Tick <http://twitter.com/The_Tick>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 22, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Alice wrote:
>>
>> Is GrowlMail separate from Growl? Did I essentially waste my money?
>>
>> I don't understand why I can't link to gmail, I see gmail in the Growl
>> examples.
>>
>> For GChat I use GMail. The in-browser window.
>>
>> For a 'simple, easy' program, this is really complicated :[
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:41:05 PM UTC-4, Christopher Forsythe
>> wrote:
>>
>>  GrowlMail is likely the best solution for Apple's Mail client.
>> http://growl.info/growlmail will point you in the right direction for
>> that.
>>
>> What client do you use for google chat? Messages or something else?
>>
>> I'll see what I can find on the calendar side of things.
>>
>> --
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>> @The_Tick <http://twitter.com/The_Tick>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Alice wrote:
>>
>> Gmail, essentially. GChat? That's basically it. Mac Mail is what I mean
>> by gmail, but it's connected to GMail. Also mac Calendar, if possible.
>>
>> Essentially I bought this app to move my email notifications to the
>> bottom left corner of my screen, since Mac (for whatever reason) doesn't
>> let you put it in the upper right.
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:28:52 PM UTC-4, Christopher Forsythe wrote:
>>
>> Growl notifications require that the sending application actually
>> supports Growl. List a few applications and let's see what we can do to
>> help you out here. :)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Alice <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I just bought and installed Growl with the assumption that purchasing a
>> program would make it work. I'm not getting any notifications. The FAQ is
>> no help (I do not have multiple versions or logitech whateveritis).
>>
>> I am still getting OSX notifications and see no way to turn on Growl, fix
>> it, etc, whatever.
>>
>> Running 10.8.
>>
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