That's my man..............experiment and be damned !

You don't know until you try these things. Hopefully you calculate the why's
and wherefores first, but at the end of the day it's all still a bit 'seat
of the pants' ! The pioneering spirit !

I hadn't thought of the possibility of the injectors seizing, why should
this happen ? I don't really know enough about EFI to figure it !


Barry Edwards



----- Original Message -----
From: "mototune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [moved from YamahaFJ list] Re: Flatslide carbs...(non FJ)


> Good morning Barry. I've been having some ISP problems again. I seem to be
> missing out. I've changed ISP's this year so many times that I just can't
> keep up with it. I guess I'm lucky  to catch a part of this 1. Very
> interesting.  Sorry, dude. No, I haven't done a dyno run. I noticed
someone
> was interested in the flow rate of the injectors. I've done some research
on
> this (still in the process) & I have those #'s somewhere. I'll do a review
> of what I came up with so far & if the info is ready for speculation I'll
> make it available. As a note: So far, the GTS EFI is handling the bigger
> motor without a glitch. This is not surprising. The area of concern
however
> is to see whether the injectors will overheat & sieze up. I'll know more
on
> this next year since the season is winding down now & I've got another
> experiment ready for the FJ which I would like to fit in before the
winter.
> Be good. Ride safe. Peter Piazza.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 7:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [moved from YamahaFJ list] Re: Flatslide carbs...(non FJ)
>
>
> > It's a whole range of uncharted territory !
> >
> > Does anyone have anymore information on the YZF750 that was raced using
> GTS
> > fuel injection ? I've seen pictures of it on the net somewhere !
> >
> > Pete Piazza is using a 1040 or thereabouts and retained the fuel
> injection,
> > can't remember if Pete did any dyno runs though.
> >
> > Pete ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Barry Edwards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rev. Baroon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 9:25 PM
> > Subject: [moved from YamahaFJ list] Re: Flatslide carbs...(non FJ)
> >
> >
> > > Certainly.  Mine has the FZR1000 engine with the 1040 kit, it would be
> fun
> > > to see what would happen with the 1040 on the GTS but I wonder what
the
> > > stock throttlebodies would think about that. They're only, what..?
34mm
> vs
> > > the FZRs 38 or so.. would that 4mm less choke it to death? Frankly, I
> > don't
> > > need top-end gargantuan HP, I think wheelies in 3rd from a standstill
> > would
> > > be more fun. :)
> > >
> > > Another way might be to start with the stock GTS and use EXUP headers,
> > 1040
> > > kit and maybe open the throttlebodies 1mm more.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the flowlimits of the injectors?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Barry Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >
> > > > Woh, don't get me wrong, I still see a very desirable GTS there! I
> think
> > > to
> > > > a very large extent you can still have your cake and eat it.
> > > >
> > > > On my own bike I would retain the Exup. I might try leaving the fuel
> > > > injection, I've heard it may have the scope to adjust itself to the
> > > modified
> > > > flows within the ECU. (I have seen pictures of GTS1000 injection on
a
> > > racing
> > > > YZF750).
> > > >
> > > > Unless the previous owner has changed camshafts I doubt whether they
> > will
> > > > have done anything that would messed the bottom-end totally.
Somewhere
> > in
> > > > your intake and exhaust set-up I reckon lies your problem. Crack
that
> > and
> > > > you will have best of both worlds.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck, hope you keep us updated on the GTS board too!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Barry Edwards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, there is a good reason there are hundreds of thousands of $$
> > spend
> > > > > in the engineering department at various MC manufacturers!
> > > > >
> > > > > They try to make a very good bike that fits a wide array of
people,
> > and
> > > > > although I can proudly show a sheet with a curve up to 137HP, it
> > doesn't
> > > > > mean shit for my lowend and everyday driveability.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bot gosh it's fun to hop on it and leave the front wheel in the
air
> a
> > > few
> > > > > inches for a while.. heheheeh
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 18:23:03 +0100 "Barry Edwards"
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I bought my GTS with the intention of slipping a Thunderace
engine
> > > > > > into it. But soon realised that for what the GTS is intended,
it's
> > > > > detuned
> > > > > > engine, giving a broader spread of torque, is really perfect.
It's
> > > more
> > > >
> >
> >
>

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