Hey the Kawasaki has hard bags.  There is one in a shop here.

Grant Gall
Calgary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sail Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: December 19, 2002 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: falling prices


> I just ran NADA reports:
>
> YAMAHA
> 1994
>
>
>  Road/Street
>   Model:   GTS1000AF/C GTS
>   Piston Displacement (CCs):   1,003
>   Stroke:   4
>   Cylinders:   4
>   Speeds:   5
>   Dry Weight:   553
>   Low Retail:   $4,860
>   Average Retail:   $6,390
>   High Retail:   $6,905
>
> Sail
>
> >>> Phil Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/19 7:57 AM >>>
> Well, everyone, while doing some MSF work in a dealership late yesterday,
I
> borrowed the NADA book and checked prices on our fair mounts.  Yikes!
What
> happened while I was in the kitchen fixing a ham sandwich???
>
> Last time I looked, I recall the retail value as being up around
$7500-$8500,
> depending on which year, etc.  The current official value?  NADA (best
source,
> by the way) says $4000 wholesale, and about $5600 retail.
>
> I guess we should be careful what we wish for.  The whole time I've been
on
> this list, everyone has bemoaned the lack of alternatives in the
sport-touring
> market, and now we have them.  Honda finally figured out to put factory
luggage
> (optional) on the VFR, and reworked the ST to boot.  Kawasaki figured out
that
> some of us would like a 1200cc "sporty" bike but not necessarily a "sport"
bike
> (now they just need to figure out the concept of factory luggage).  Yamaha
> pissed and moaned all the way to the dealership sales counter that no one
> wanted the FJR, only to find themselves doing a Harley imitation and
selling
> bikes for hard money when those bikes don't really exist.
>
> And with alternatives on the market??  No one still wants our GTSs.  Sigh.
>
> This bike has held its value so well for most of a decade, I see no other
> explanation.
>
> Phil (who used to worry about the plummeting value of his retirement
portfolio)

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